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ruirib
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  07:13:08  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Shaggy,
What you do in Woo.ie is not to get back in a controled way, after form submission, and retrieve the previous form values? It didn't look like this was the situation here, at least as I understood it.<


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Shaggy
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Ireland
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  07:27:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I understand the problem here it is also after form submission (post.asp to post_info.asp), when the flood control, or other, error is encountered. As the form is being submitted, the values are being read into variables so the form could be placed below the error message with the relevant fields populated by the variables so that a member can correct their errors without the need to hit the back button.

Or maybe I've missed the target completely as to what Ste is trying to accomplish.

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AnonJr
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  07:49:24  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shaggy

Or maybe I've missed the target completely as to what Ste is trying to accomplish.


I don't know that any of us is clearly understanding ... Based on the first few posts I was thinking this was a problem with hitting the "Back" button and then comming back.

Somewhere along the way it began to sound more like people wanted to start typing a post, then finish/post it later.

Now I have no idea what the actual problem is.... of course it could have something to do with it being a Wed. and I haven't had the first cup of coffee yet! <
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s80ts0465
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Italy
290 Posts

Posted - 28 September 2005 :  07:49:43  Show Profile  Send s80ts0465 an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
mhh.....
i need to save the message after a backbotton, not after form submission.<
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ruirib
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  07:50:37  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Probably we both did .

There is one thing for sure: if the problem is after form submission, then it can be dealt with. Anyway, if it's after form submission and posters take a long time to do it, how come flood control is an issue?<


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ruirib
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  07:53:21  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by s80ts0465

mhh.....
i need to save the message after a backbotton, not after form submission.


What is the situation? You're typing the post, press back button, then try to get to the posting page again to continue posting?<


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Shaggy
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Ireland
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  07:55:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was just using that error as an example

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s80ts0465
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  08:06:40  Show Profile  Send s80ts0465 an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ruirib

quote:
Originally posted by s80ts0465

mhh.....
i need to save the message after a backbotton, not after form submission.


What is the situation? You're typing the post, press back button, then try to get to the posting page again to continue posting?



yes exactly ! and i'd like to not loose what i typed before<
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Shaggy
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Ireland
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  08:13:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Again probably misunderstanding but are you wanting to allow members use their browsers back button to return to the post they just made in order to edit it? Because you're not going to be able to accomplish that in this manner, you're going to end up with a new post each time a member does that. Can they not just edit their posts from topic.asp?

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ruirib
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  08:31:25  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shaggy

Again probably misunderstanding but are you wanting to allow members use their browsers back button to return to the post they just made in order to edit it? Because you're not going to be able to accomplish that in this manner, you're going to end up with a new post each time a member does that. Can they not just edit their posts from topic.asp?




It doesn't look like that. Looks like the back button is pressed before the post was submitted.

I repeat as Huw stated, that's the way browsers work. If the browser keeps the data for you, good, otherwise you're lost. You could probably add a couple buttons to the browser, to copy the text to the clipboard and to paste it back from the clipboard again, but these buttons would need to be clicked before navigating out of the page and after navigation back to the page.

My advice, no joke: tell users to use IE. If they want to use something else, tell them they should not navigate out of the page before posting.<


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AnonJr
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  08:49:55  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ruirib

My advice, no joke: tell users to use IE. If they want to use something else, tell them they should not navigate out of the page before posting.


I've seen IE behave that way too... like HuwR said, its a browser function - and probably depends on what you have enabled/disabled. As mentioned before, since the back button pulls from the browser's cache, any code you put in there won't execute.<
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s80ts0465
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Italy
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Posted - 28 September 2005 :  13:42:39  Show Profile  Send s80ts0465 an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
ruirib is right

i've understood.

i've to train peoples.

thanks a lot anyway

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Shaggy
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Ireland
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Posted - 29 September 2005 :  12:11:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been thinking about this while formatting a very boring document here and I don't think this "problem" is 100% down to the browser, I think it may be a combination of the browser and the server's cache settings. For example, using Firefox on these forums, I'll lose form entries when navigating around using the back and forward buttons but not on any of my own forums even with "out of the zip" forums where the only difference would be the server, this behaviour isn't consistent. If it was down to the browser then it's behaviour in relation to "remembering" form entries should be the same for all forms on all sites.

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HuwR
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Posted - 29 September 2005 :  12:14:39  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
converseley, if it was the server, all different browsers would behave the same , one thing for sure though, it is not the forum<
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Shaggy
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Ireland
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Posted - 29 September 2005 :  12:22:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, ay, definitely not a Snitz issue.

While, theoretically, all browsers should behave the same way if it were a server setting, we know from past experience that not all browsers bahave the same way when it comes to different things. For example (an example only, I've got nothing to back it up with ), if the server, or indeed the scripts themselves, forced a browser to reload a page rather than read it from cache, it's could be possible that IE ignores that when back or forward are used.

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