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Astralis
Senior Member

USA
1218 Posts

Posted - 03 September 2005 :  05:50:50  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I've been thinking about using Snitz as an article comment (not content) system. I want the comments to display below the article like the blogs do without using frames or an IFRAME.

Some of the issues: reworking topic.asp into a new page to display on the page, eliminating the header and footer on these pages, adding a redirect to post.asp if people post from the article page so that it takes them back to the article when they're finished.

These actually seems fairly simple that I suspect someone has already done this. Is there a mod, or has someone worked on it and could share some code/advice?

Or, if you don't think this is a good idea, do you have an alternative?

Thanks!<

Edited by - Astralis on 07 September 2005 21:42:23

MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 03 September 2005 :  07:37:45  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Astralis ; I've done something similar for oxle, for the frontpage news, the linkdump and the weblogs, and as you know my code is available to anyone.<

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Edited by - MarcelG on 03 September 2005 07:37:56
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Astralis
Senior Member

USA
1218 Posts

Posted - 03 September 2005 :  09:46:07  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Wow! That's very nice!

Have you done anything with the rating system, by chance, where users can also rate the articles?

It's fascinating how you made the first topic the article. Your formatting is nice. I will, instead, be relating the topics to an article in a different table.

I really like what you did and will use your ideas.

BTW, are you using Access or MSSQL Server?<
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 03 September 2005 :  10:58:41  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astralis
Wow! That's very nice!

Thanks for the compliment.
quote:
Originally posted by Astralis
Have you done anything with the rating system, by chance, where users can also rate the articles?

Nope ; never bothered to. The number of replies is my way of measuring the value of a post.
quote:
Originally posted by Astralis
It's fascinating how you made the first topic the article. Your formatting is nice. I will, instead, be relating the topics to an article in a different table.
I've decided to leave the entire db in tact, therefore enabling 100% transparency and retaining all features already build for a topic. (like topicsplitting, moving, locking, moderation etc etc).
However, I've also created an 'article' system, which uses again a different forum which is not accessible/visible to anyone except a special member list. Every topic that exists in that forum can be shown using a completely different view, called article.asp ; here's an example ; http://www.oxle.nl/article.asp?art=3065
Completeley unrecognizable as a topic, but in fact not much more than FORUM_TOPICS.T_MESSAGE
quote:
Originally posted by Astralis
BTW, are you using Access or MSSQL Server?

Still on Access ; planning to to go MS SQL within 6 months, depending on financial resources <

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AnonJr
Moderator

United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 03 September 2005 :  11:06:00  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That's pretty cool... gives me some ideas... any chance I could see what you've done with it so far?<
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Astralis
Senior Member

USA
1218 Posts

Posted - 03 September 2005 :  20:02:21  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

Still on Access ; planning to to go MS SQL within 6 months, depending on financial resources


I feared the costs of MSSQL Server too but I eventually converted and now I really don't notice it, even though I am paying a little more.

I know you live in Europe, so I don't know if this recommendation will be good, but go for the $26/mo. (US) plan at www.CrystalTech.com - it's a solid shared hosting company with reasonable rates. (I do not work for them nor do I get a cut). That plan should hold you for a while. I have over 200MB in the forum plus a CMS running on it. I'm paying about $40/mo.<
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 04 September 2005 :  06:36:13  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astralis

quote:

Still on Access ; planning to to go MS SQL within 6 months, depending on financial resources


I feared the costs of MSSQL Server too but I eventually converted and now I really don't notice it, even though I am paying a little more.

I know you live in Europe, so I don't know if this recommendation will be good, but go for the $26/mo. (US) plan at www.CrystalTech.com - it's a solid shared hosting company with reasonable rates. (I do not work for them nor do I get a cut). That plan should hold you for a while. I have over 200MB in the forum plus a CMS running on it. I'm paying about $40/mo.

Well, I'm on 10 bucks a month, at www.wiktel.com/helpdesk/domain.htm" target="_blank">Wiktel ; 500 Mb storage, 10 Gb traffic, and great support (via sr_erick). For another 10 a month I'd be on SQL.
Quite happy with them as a matter of fact.

But, we're getting completely offtopic and getting close to a locked topic as hosting-discussions are not really allowed here @ snitz...<

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Astralis
Senior Member

USA
1218 Posts

Posted - 04 September 2005 :  22:17:58  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Marcel,

Where is your page that displays your code?<
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 05 September 2005 :  03:18:42  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astralis

Marcel,

Where is your page that displays your code?

http://www.oxle.com/source.asp ; enjoy.<

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Astralis
Senior Member

USA
1218 Posts

Posted - 05 September 2005 :  03:22:20  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Source.asp is redirecting to forums.asp<
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 05 September 2005 :  04:48:33  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh, sorry ; you have to be logged in to the site.
You can use demo/demo if you do not wish to register.<

portfolio - linkshrinker - oxle - twitter
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AnonJr
Moderator

United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 05 September 2005 :  06:16:52  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I like that source viewer. If you wanted to take it a step further, read this article. It includes a class you can use to color code your soruce.<
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Helterskelter
Junior Member

United Kingdom
331 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2005 :  17:46:37  Show Profile  Visit Helterskelter's Homepage  Send Helterskelter an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks I'be been looking for something like this.

I'ge got a version running now at my site but how do u access it.

I'm thinking if adding a responce.redirect linking to article.asp if forum_id="xx" in topic.asp
but just wandering hw u do this marcelgoertz

Helter<

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Astralis
Senior Member

USA
1218 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2005 :  22:20:55  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Marcel,

Where do you define this: strNewsForum and strOtherNewsForum?

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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 08 September 2005 :  03:43:59  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Helterskelter

Thanks I'be been looking for something like this.

I'ge got a version running now at my site but how do u access it.

I'm thinking if adding a responce.redirect linking to article.asp if forum_id="xx" in topic.asp
but just wandering hw u do this marcelgoertz

Helter

Helter ; the article.asp topics aren't directly accessible through the forum navigation, unless you are an admin. I'm using a specific articles forum for that, which is set to 'Allowed Members List - Hidden'.
To use articles I just link them in the navigationmenu on the top, by manually editing inc_header.asp. So, not very high-tech, I know.

quote:
Originally posted by Astralis

Marcel,
Where do you define this: strNewsForum and strOtherNewsForum?

Oh, that's from the Sidebar Mod.
The strNewsForum is used for the main frontpage forum.
The strOtherNewsforum is used specifically at oxle to change between oxle.nl (dutch) and oxle.com (english). They've got different frontpages, so that's why.
This is done at the end of config.asp in oxledotnl.asp.
You can use the mod I linked, or you could also define the variables manually in config.asp. There aren't that many to set. Just have a peek at oxledotnl.asp ; for the dutch site I've defined them all manually. The admin-page is used only for the english part.<

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Edited by - MarcelG on 08 September 2005 04:04:36
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Helterskelter
Junior Member

United Kingdom
331 Posts

Posted - 08 September 2005 :  05:04:39  Show Profile  Visit Helterskelter's Homepage  Send Helterskelter an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Ok. I'll have a look at adding some code to topic.asp so it redirects all topic's in article forum to article.asp

I like leaving the article froum open to allow all people to have easy access.
Thanks for allowing us to view the code, it's quite simple and a good way of displying it.

Helter<

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