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capaomega
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 Posted - 09 June 2001 : 09:34:03
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is snitz planed to work for php anytime soon?
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CrimsonBane
Starting Member
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Posted - 09 June 2001 : 14:30:23
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Personaly I would love to see a php version. I am a php/asp developer and PHP ownz ASP performance/features and cross platform support. The only half decent PHP board is phpbb and it is a piece of crap programming done my newbies. They have never herd of a class or a function in there life. I would defienitly be willing to help make a php version of snitz forums I have 3 years experience with PHP.
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gor
Retired Admin
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Posted - 10 June 2001 : 01:30:26
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No plans for PHP support, it would take twice the amount of time to support them both, and supporting this version is about all we can handle.
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CrimsonBane
Starting Member
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Posted - 10 June 2001 : 10:52:10
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Although it would make more logical sence to port to PHP as it does own ASP and forget asp support. Lets see what advantages ASP offeres of PHP.
1. Cross Platform Support - no although for php if you can compile it on the platform it will work.
2. Speed - no way in hell php is way faster than going through com like asp does.
I do not understand why you would keep developing an asp board it makes no sence cause anyone on a nt server can get php support for free.
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e3stone
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Posted - 10 June 2001 : 11:49:43
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I believe that if Snitz were to go to PHP, there would have to be a totally different development team to do it. Not saying that the ASP people couldn't do the PHP, but if we were to do PHP, the project scope would be huge. I think we need to stick with ASP and concentrate on making this code better. Instead of developing a forum in a totally different language, I'd like to see someone develop stored procedures for the SQL Queries. I think there are quite a few security problems with using the dynamic queries that are in place now. I totally understand WHY we're using the dynamic ones, but it would be nice to have a choice if we're going to be using it on SQL server.
However, IF someone (or a group of people) wanted to attempt to develop this forum in PHP, I'd be willing to help. I'm just starting out with PHP, so I might not be able to help a whole lot, but it would still be a good learning exerience. I was mentioning a while back about how much this forum has increased my knowledge of ASP and I'd like to do the same with PHP.
Pierre is right, though. If there were a PHP version in addition to the ASP, then the support would suffer and that's the best thing about Snitz. The people that were posting in concern to the Delphi forum are PHP "gurus", I believe. You might post your PHP request in that thread if you can find it.
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CrimsonBane
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Posted - 10 June 2001 : 12:50:20
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Stored Procedures have a generic problem of being slower than actual dynamic queries on large scale systems cause they get associated with trigers which take a toll on performance on all queries even queries not associated with the stored procedure.
Question what do you mean security problems with the current dynamic queries.
e3stone you also seem to forget the fact that ASP is not a really good language for developing a messageboard it has to many restrictions and crap performance. Besides the fact asp.net is soon going to be out and the board is going to have to port to a new language either which way. PHP still ownz asp.net and devlopment on a new generation board should begin in a new language.
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
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Posted - 10 June 2001 : 12:57:55
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PHP "owns" ASP ?
This forum happens to perform just fine. I don't see "crap" performance at all. If you want a PHP Forum, then why don't you program one?
ASP.Net is completely backwards compatible with earlier versions of ASP. Just as IIS5 is backwards compatible with IIS4 and so on. We won't have to port anything.
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Doug G
Support Moderator
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Posted - 10 June 2001 : 14:08:33
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Stored Procedures have a generic problem of being slower than actual dynamic queries on large scale systems cause they get associated with trigers which take a toll on performance on all queries even queries not associated with the stored procedure.
Not correct.
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CrimsonBane
Starting Member
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Posted - 10 June 2001 : 17:34:51
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Doug G what do you mean it is not correct. Yes, stored procedures are faster but stored procedure usually have triggers usually slow down everything, even queries for which they are not needed.
Also yes, the board has no problem handeling small trafic but try the board after 1,000,000 posts and performance will be crap. Don't forget PHP ownz in performance note how non of you disagree with that statement.
ASP.net will be faster than asp 3.0 logic would state as you do have competition on the messageboard area that you would want to make the board as fast as possible there for port it to the newer language.
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
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Posted - 10 June 2001 : 18:32:22
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