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Astralis
Senior Member
USA
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 Posted - 12 March 2014 : 01:01:39
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It appears that the spammers who've been spamming my forum are actually doing it by hand.
The IP addresses are all unique and the email addresses are all seemingly legitimate, including the user names.
I believe there is a company that is hiring people in poor countries to manually spam message boards.
If I deleted the members pending, I would definitely delete real users, so that's not useful for me.
I created a captcha that is for new users, but because these are humans, they correctly answer them.
So, I have a member reputation system that is created the users, so I was thinking of limiting new members from creating links in topics.
Also, if a new user posts more than two links in a topic, I was thinking of deleting it.
I thought defeating bots was difficult. Defeating spam humans is tougher.
Thoughts? |
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Carefree
Advanced Member
Philippines
4217 Posts |
Posted - 12 March 2014 : 01:16:50
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| Require referrals or recommendations. |
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Astralis
Senior Member
USA
1218 Posts |
Posted - 12 March 2014 : 02:12:11
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| That would help! But I have a very open forum, especially open to those who find it through the search engines. |
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Carefree
Advanced Member
Philippines
4217 Posts |
Posted - 12 March 2014 : 03:19:31
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| Could write a mod that would require a specified number of posts and/or amount of time since registration before it would allow links in posts. Wouldn't be that difficult. |
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Astralis
Senior Member
USA
1218 Posts |
Posted - 12 March 2014 : 03:35:26
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| Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. |
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Carefree
Advanced Member
Philippines
4217 Posts |
Posted - 12 March 2014 : 21:47:54
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| OK, wrote it for you. See this post. |
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Etymon
Advanced Member
United States
2393 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2014 : 01:52:56
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You know, with your forum, Astralis, you could have the spammers do a scripture search or some kind of religious quiz, maybe get them converted, and then encourage them to spread the Gospel instead of spamming web sites! That's a win-win, don't ya think?  |
Edited by - Etymon on 13 March 2014 01:53:51 |
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2014 : 08:01:30
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Originally posted by Carefree
OK, wrote it for you. See this post.
Nice work. Sometimes I wonder if we ought not work on some sort of qualitative means of rank and privilege instead of the usual quantitative (post count). It works nice on more goal-directed sites like http://stackexchange.com - I'm just not sure how well that works for general discussion forums.
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Originally posted by Etymon
You know, with your forum, Astralis, you could have the spammers do a scripture search or some kind of religious quiz, maybe get them converted, and then encourage them to spread the Gospel instead of spamming web sites! That's a win-win, don't ya think?
Don't do that when I'm drinking my morning coffee...  |
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Carefree
Advanced Member
Philippines
4217 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2014 : 08:52:28
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Originally posted by AnonJr
Sometimes I wonder if we ought not work on some sort of qualitative means of rank and privilege instead of the usual quantitative (post count).
What do you have in mind? Snitz has some moderators, etc. with relatively low post counts. Quality cannot be ascertained without some form of peer review ... maybe add a polling capability and use a staff forum where staff members can vote on nominated individuals? |
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2014 : 12:39:25
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If I had something in particular in mind, I'd have mentioned it. (not being snarky there)
A lot really depends on the specific community, making it hard to bake it into a general-purpose product...
One idea I've seen floating around that I'd like to investigate is the idea of sponsorship - the only way you get in is to have a sponsor; and their name is highly visible next to everything you do. If you behave bad enough to get kicked out, your sponsor gets kicked too. If you meet certain criteria (which has varied among the few implementations I've read about) you graduate to being able to stand on your own and sponsor new members yourself.
I've seen a few ideas around some sort of reputation system, usually tied to up-voted or "liked" posts, but there's often a lot of contention over the use and value of that when there's no clear definition of "quality". At least on StackExchange.com sites, there's a strict Q&A format that can be used to determine quality/value and go from there. With something like Jesus Joshua's forum, quality is a little fuzzier, but we still don't want the spammers etc.
Those are some of the very rough thoughts, and not something I'd act on at this point... especially since I think I forgot to add something somewhere. I got interrupted a few times in the last hour. =/ |
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2014 : 12:40:19
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| ... I did forget one part - I've been meaning to look at what http://www.discourse.org/ is doing about this. Even left the tab up as a reminder. Time for another cup of coffee. |
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Etymon
Advanced Member
United States
2393 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2014 : 13:44:05
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Originally posted by AnonJr
Don't do that when I'm drinking my morning coffee...
... Time for another cup of coffee.
Remember to think on my offer for Astralis between cups.  |
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Astralis
Senior Member
USA
1218 Posts |
Posted - 14 March 2014 : 05:25:21
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Carefree, wow! I didn't expect that. For the past few days, I've been thinking about how to do this and didn't expect anyone here to do what you did and didn't notice these replies.
Thank you very much!
Etymon, good point about the Scripture. One of my random questions is "Matthew, Mark, Luke, ____"
The spammers are able to answer that, unfortunately. |
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Carefree
Advanced Member
Philippines
4217 Posts |
Posted - 14 March 2014 : 07:24:00
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Originally posted by Astralis
For the past few days, I've been thinking about how to do this and didn't expect anyone here to do what you did and didn't notice these replies.
Thank you very much!
You're welcome.
Ask them more detailed; harder to find things. Make them search. Maybe things like who was the great-grandson of Adam in the lineage of Jesus, who ascended to heaven while alive, what was the xth (use your own number) plague visited upon Egypt, what were the dimensions of the ark, etc. |
Edited by - Carefree on 14 March 2014 07:25:31 |
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Etymon
Advanced Member
United States
2393 Posts |
Posted - 14 March 2014 : 14:23:27
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Yes! Carefree is on the right track!
Your's is a religious site, so even your members will (should) enjoy the lesson/quiz material. |
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