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MJFarmgirl
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 Posted - 24 June 2013 : 15:38:16
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I'm looking around and gathering that a .NET version is still in production/beta - no official release yet. Correct?
Also, is the ".Net forum" at the following url (in the Dev group because it's still in beta)? /Forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=124
It's not off on some other new site, is it?
As for the advice: I'll need to install a new instance of Snitz for a new website. I'm trying to build the site using .NET 4.0. The boss wants all applicable features from our other fairly well-modded version carried over. And I want to modify the new installation further to use existing login info from the .NET Membership/Profile/Role providers.
Will it probably be best to just copy over our existing instance of Snitz, and modify from there? esp pertaining to login info, per
this post. (Edit: Upon rereading that post, I realize that it has little to do with what I'm trying to do.)
i.e. Would everyone else figure it's better to run the established, stable classic ASP version in an otherwise .NET context than to risk the beta version and also have to port any necessary modifications to the .NET version to match our existing instance?
Also, to note, I haven't actually myself installed Snitz before; and I'm relatively new to .NET. Not sure how that'll change the difficulty level for implementing the .NET membership in the classic ASP version. |
Edited by - MJFarmgirl on 27 June 2013 16:22:23 |
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HuwR
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Posted - 24 June 2013 : 18:32:27
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although it is still beta, the current .net code is pretty stable, I have been running it on a site where I work for over a year without any problems.
It contains most of the base forum functionality with a few added extras, although if you have a heavily modded snitz there will be stuff that you are going to have to add yourself
The .Net version currently ONLY supports MS SQL databases as well. |
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MJFarmgirl
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Posted - 27 June 2013 : 15:48:18
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MS SQL databases, no problem.
I'll have to go look exactly what we have for mods and which will actually need carrying over.
Is there the capability to upload photos and place them in posts already built into the .NET version? I know that's the main mod of concern.
For the Membership/Roles, can you give me an idea how that will work for tying it together with the rest of a site? If Membership users and roles are already generated elsewhere for a site, will it be pretty easy to modify Snitz.NET to utilize those roles and users? (At least authentication-wise, even if much of the forum-specific data still needs to be stored in Snitz's own databases.)
I mean, if Snitz uses .NET Membership/Roles and the rest of a site uses .NET Membership/Roles, then, so long as the ApplicationName can be supplied to be the same, they're all using the same Membership/Roles right? )
The rest of the concern would just be a desire to avoid the need to duplicate data between one "application" and the other (like first/last names, address info, etc).
At some point here, I can inspect the .NET files to see myself. Always helps to just get a good guess from someone already familiar with it. |
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MJFarmgirl
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Posted - 27 June 2013 : 15:50:48
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| If I do use Snitz.NET, and have to modify it a fair amount to utilize the user data that exists outside .NET Membership/Roles, then hopefully I can post the modifications here, and that can be my modest contribution to the Snitz community. :*) |
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MJFarmgirl
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Posted - 27 June 2013 : 16:10:03
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Not to post lots in a row... Once Snitz and the rest of a website are supplying the same ApplicationName to .NET Membership/Roles, I'm guessing that utilizing pre-existing user data could be as simple as modifying Snitz's stored procedures so the SQL queries do joins with the other database as needed for the parts stored externally. The classic Snitz lets pretty much any field be null, so its own MEMBERS table can just be left half-empty.
Although! Does Snitz.NET utilize .NET's Profile for storing member data? If it does that, then I should just utilize Profile from the outset for the rest of my site. (That's a decision I have to make now, and I was just veering away from Profile, so that I could store the data more "distinctly"; but if Snitz.NET uses Profile, then I may as well...)
Well, now I just have to look and get this figured out and decided... |
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MJFarmgirl
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Posted - 27 June 2013 : 16:23:02
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Wait.
XD
Is the test .NET effectively the "help" forum for itself? I can be so slow to catch on at times...
Edit:
Doesn't look like it.
And, is there a place to download the .NET version? All I get is the "Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)" for http://snitz.reddiweb.com, same as CertGuard back in 2010. I can't find any other references yet. |
Edited by - MJFarmgirl on 27 June 2013 18:00:35 |
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HuwR
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Posted - 27 June 2013 : 16:59:26
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quote:
Originally posted by MJFarmgirl
Wait.
XD
Is the test .NET effectively the "help" forum for itself? I can be so slow to catch on at times...
Yes, although you can post heretoo
And yes the .Net version uses .net membership and profiles.
I started a new job this week, so am hoping that I will now have more free time available so will try and sort out a download package and some sql scripts next week.
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HuwR
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Posted - 27 June 2013 : 17:04:08
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It should be fairly straightforward to either migrate/merge users, however what I have done in the past is rewrite the membership provider so that it checks both databases in order to validate a user, anyway, it would probably require a longer discussion about specifics  |
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MJFarmgirl
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Posted - 27 June 2013 : 18:39:01
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OK. Thanks HuwR.
That's rather funny how starting a new job gives you more time...
Must be a good job, or a good change-up job-wise.
Anyway, found a Snitz .Net Web App on SourceForge. Listed a HuwRed as a developer, and upon inspection, it looks to be a fully formed Snitz forum.
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HuwR
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Posted - 28 June 2013 : 07:10:00
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a good change job wise
I think the code on sourceforge is quite a bit out of date, although the membership providor should be pretty much the same as that has not changed significantly over the last 6 months, but the base code went through some major changes. |
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MJFarmgirl
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Posted - 28 June 2013 : 17:56:06
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I had an idea.
Since the boss wants me to just use the classic ASP Snitz forum, because we already use and are familiar with it, I was looking over the possibilities for that.
I'm still tracing it out, but I'm relatively sure I can use some cookie placed by .NET - once a user is authenticated via Membership - as a signal. I'll let Snitz take care of everything it needs internally same as it would normally (create its own cookies, set its own internal variables for access levels, etc), but wherever it is Snitz checks whether a user is already logged on or not is where I'll have it check for that cookie, get the username from it, and trigger its login routine.
Just need to not have it do the "You logged in successfully!" message and redirect; and remove all access to its built-in login/registration pages with a custom header.
(I've never had to work with cookies yet, so I still have to ascertain that the .NET cookie will be available to the Snitz forum. I'm assuming it will be since the forum will be contained within the same domain.) |
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MJFarmgirl
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Posted - 03 July 2013 : 19:19:53
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| OK. Good! That's good to hear. |
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HuwR
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Posted - 04 July 2013 : 07:24:46
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I may have some code that might help as I did an integration for Snitz/MojoPortal for a freind, I will try and dig it out over the weekend.
Obviously it will depend how your site is set up and which part forum/other that you want to deal with the authentication. |
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