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corgidog
Starting Member

9 Posts

Posted - 21 March 2001 :  16:43:10  Show Profile
I put a SNITZ forum on my home web server and was showing off it's functionality to my manager here at work. He thought it was a great product and wants to use it on our corporate web site. As a service to clients looking for support and on our internal intranet for the same purpose.

Question is this: Is it acceptable to use this software on a corporate site? What usage fees would there be? I know the public license probably answers these questions but my concern is a 'for public use' program on a privately held corporate site. I didn't see anything that explicitly states software can't be used in this setting, but I also didn't see anything that said it could be either.

Thanks for input.

Kerry
Average Member

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 21 March 2001 :  16:56:08  Show Profile  Visit Kerry's Homepage
Use for that purpose is completetly permitted.

I think the only stipulation is that the copyright notice remains intact - giving credit where credit is due. These are in the meta tags and the link *here* in the page footer.

-Kerry



Edited by - kerry on 21 March 2001 16:56:36
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gor
Retired Admin

Netherlands
5511 Posts

Posted - 22 March 2001 :  00:23:20  Show Profile  Visit gor's Homepage
Kerry is correct, the licensing agreement allows use on a corporate intranet.
As long as the requirement regarding the copyrightstatements and the Powered By link, use on a coporate intranet is allright.
And remember that the code is GPL licensed so you can't sell it.

Pierre
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EricGoldman
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Posted - 22 March 2001 :  11:07:40  Show Profile  Send EricGoldman an AOL message
quote:

Kerry is correct, the licensing agreement allows use on a corporate intranet.
As long as the requirement regarding the copyrightstatements and the Powered By link, use on a coporate intranet is allright.
And remember that the code is GPL licensed so you can't sell it.

Pierre



We are building a website for a client and I would like to use SNITZ as our forum. Is this possible/legal?

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davemaxwell
Access 2000 Support Moderator

USA
3020 Posts

Posted - 22 March 2001 :  11:27:55  Show Profile  Visit davemaxwell's Homepage  Send davemaxwell an AOL message  Send davemaxwell an ICQ Message  Send davemaxwell a Yahoo! Message
quote:

We are building a website for a client and I would like to use SNITZ as our forum. Is this possible/legal?



As long as the copyright and powered by stays on, it's fine to use it....

Dave Maxwell
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Proud to be a "World Class" Knucklehead
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Kerry
Average Member

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 22 March 2001 :  12:18:36  Show Profile  Visit Kerry's Homepage
quote:

We are building a website for a client and I would like to use SNITZ as our forum. Is this possible/legal?



Dave's absolutely right. And while you can't "sell" the forum, you can bill for the installation, any required research or modifications (time involved if you authored them, time to install if you didn't) as well as any consultation you provide in instructing your client on usage.

See http://forum.snitz.com/makemoney.asp

Personally, if someone *here* or from here asks for my help I always do my level best to help when I can and deserve nothing for it - I'm simply repaying the help I've gotten (and am likely to get) here as well as repaying for all I've learned here either directly or by reinforcing what I already know. But if a customer says "Do this for me so I don't have to" I bill for it - just as though they asked me to mow their grass or change the oil in their car. I make my living with design / development.

Again, that's my personal approach to it. Others may have differing opinions on the issue.

-Kerry

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gor
Retired Admin

Netherlands
5511 Posts

Posted - 22 March 2001 :  14:06:39  Show Profile  Visit gor's Homepage
Nothing more to add to that I think , just confirming that Dave and Kerry both are right.

Pierre
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Kerry
Average Member

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 22 March 2001 :  14:30:05  Show Profile  Visit Kerry's Homepage
One last thing I'd like to mention (and should have indicated in my other post) is that if you're making money from the forum, saving money by using it or even just having fun working with the code - you might want to consider giving back to the community in the form of helping out here with answering questions where you can, by developing and releasing mod's to the code or even just helping test out alpha's and beta releases.

And if you simply don't have the time to do any of those things, but still feel you owe someone for all their hard work, this link will help:
http://forum.snitz.com/donations.asp

(I'm stepping off my soapbox now )

-Kerry

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JohnIII
New Member

United Kingdom
52 Posts

Posted - 23 March 2001 :  17:14:42  Show Profile  Visit JohnIII's Homepage
IIRC, the GPL restricts you from keeping any modifications you make to your source to yourself, which might be an issue for some companies.

Basically, what I mean is that you have to give away the source of the forum, even if you make any modifications.

John III
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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 23 March 2001 :  20:32:54  Show Profile
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IIRC, the GPL restricts you from keeping any modifications you make to your source to yourself, which might be an issue for some companies.

I don't think that's correct. You can modify to your heart's content for your own use and never share your code, but if you do offer your modified program you have to make the source available (and abide by the other terms of the GPL).

Here is one line from the GNU description of free software (GPL software):

"You should also have the freedom to make modifications and use them privately in your own work or play, without even mentioning that they exist. If you do publish your changes, you should not be required to notify anyone in particular, or in any particular way."

http://www.gnu.org


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Doug G
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gor
Retired Admin

Netherlands
5511 Posts

Posted - 24 March 2001 :  03:21:17  Show Profile  Visit gor's Homepage
quote:

"You should also have the freedom to make modifications and use them privately in your own work or play, without even mentioning that they exist. If you do publish your changes, you should not be required to notify anyone in particular, or in any particular way."



Makes sence to me, why have a rule that forbids you to do something nobody can check ?


Pierre
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JohnIII
New Member

United Kingdom
52 Posts

Posted - 24 March 2001 :  05:30:58  Show Profile  Visit JohnIII's Homepage
Sorry, you're quite right, it's if you distribute and modify it then the source must be available. Which is why Toast isn't GPL .
John III
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