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AnonJr
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United States
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Posted - 13 February 2008 :  09:16:11  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Thanks, I'll have to try that when I get home. Even if I fixed it I was thinking of trying PCLinuxOS on my desktop this weekend. I've been using my desktop to try some of the other distros out there with varying levels of frustration.

So far - on my desktop - I've played with Ubuntu 7.10, openSUSE 10.3, and Fedora 8.

Ubuntu (on my desktop) wouldn't boot off of my SATA drive, and I've had all sorts of fun trying to get my dual-screen setup working right. It also doesn't seem to like my Audigy 2 ZS Platinum...

openSUSE booted off of my SATA drive, kinda got my dual-screen working the way I wanted, and it recognized my Audigy... but it dragged and there were some other miscellaneous issues that left me less than happy.

Fedora (which I just installed Monday) also boots off of my SATA, likes my Audigy, but doesn't seem to like my Radeon X1950 Pro. =/ There's also the keyboard issue (which I had with openSUSE as well), and a few other things - like it won't find the other IDE hard drive. I'll probably play with it some more until this weekend, when I try PCLinuxOS.

I've read that the PCLinuxOS guys doesn't have this fanatical antithesis against all things proprietary and it actually installs those odd little things like support for the MP3 format "out of the box".

At any rate, I still have Ubuntu on my laptop, and I'm loving that. I just need to get the last couple of nags taken care of. Things like:

  • stop prompting me for my keyring password to connect to the wireless network every time I boot up

  • let me record off of my FireWire Alesis MultiMix8

  • whatever else it was that was bugging me last weekend that I can't remember now...


All in all its been a much better experience than when I last tried this in the late 90's.
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JJenson
Advanced Member

USA
2121 Posts

Posted - 24 February 2008 :  11:43:30  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
Ok so I have a question as I have followed this. Is there any reason to make a switch over to Linux based systems? Personally I love vista for what I do and I can get everything to work very easily but just wondering if there is any advantage to the linux compared to windows?
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AnonJr
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United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 24 February 2008 :  12:37:59  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Yes and No... it really depends on what you are trying to do.

I have some older machines that fly on Linux - ones that were crawling when XP was installed on them. If you're looking to squeeze a little more life out of your hardware, this is a good way to do it.

I have had no further problems running Ubuntu on my laptop, but my desktop has been another issue... unfortunately hardware support for Linux just isn't as good as it should be. Its made leaps and bounds since I last tried this, but there's still a ways to go. IMHO some of the fragmentation doesn't help; but that's just me.

Keep in mind, that this is in a lot of ways the same discussion I have when people ask me about any OS comparison, it depends on what you are trying to do.

I still need my XP install to play some of my games. I've had mixed success running some of them under WINE, and even the ones that did run, didn't run as well as I'd like.

That said, I'll probably keep it on my laptop, and I'm trying one more time to get Ubuntu to work right on my desktop. ATI just released new drivers, so that may help with the graphics issues I was having earlier.

I'll go make another pot of coffee and see if I can't put together a more coherent answer than that.
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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 24 February 2008 :  12:55:26  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
The really question is what you want the computer for and whether your current OS lacks in some respects compared to your needs. Frankly speacking, my every time computer is a XP Tablet. I really wouldn't change this setup for anything, I guess I will always have tablets from now on and I don't think Linux supports them...


I also run XP on my desktop. Have no reason to change soon... except maybe the need to support more memory, which will likely take me into a 64 bit version, likely Vista, but don't see that happening soon.
Things may have changed, but a few years ago, Suse 7.1 with the GUI was slower than XP on the same hardware. Linux without a GUI is not really that great. Haven't looked at Linux since then, though, but my first contact with computers were on Nix machines, so I was pretty used to the non GUI interface...but don't see me changing into it again :).


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JJenson
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USA
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Posted - 24 February 2008 :  13:16:31  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
Ok I was just looking and someday I might just buy a computer to try out and learn but just wondered what the benefits were. I personally like Windows. But it seems I am in the minority on that one at least as far as developers go
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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 24 February 2008 :  13:22:19  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Not even sure that you are a minority. Windows development solutions are good enough and IMHO, there are no free tools that allow you to have as much productivity as it happens with MS's tools. Microsoft's IDE is the best, so you can always think that you just want the best the market has to offer :).



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JJenson
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USA
2121 Posts

Posted - 24 February 2008 :  13:24:03  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
Yeah I just made another post and I just got all the professional tools from MS and am very excited to learn them all and hopefully learn how to write some games for my xbox 360 that would be a blast. But I love MS overall and everything that has been offered.
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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 24 February 2008 :  19:46:46  Show Profile
quote:
Is there any reason to make a switch over to Linux based systems?
Money? Control over your OS? Fun? Running servers?

Those are some of the reasons I use Linux. No switching over to one or the other is involved, I have my Vista desktop side-by-side with my Fedora desktop, with servers in the back office. For most desktop stuff the Vista computer is used, but I'm typing this post from Fedora. There are many web-based server applications in php that generally install easier on linux/apache vs. windows/iis.

Luckily I have the time to indulge in these fun computer experiments :)

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JJenson
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USA
2121 Posts

Posted - 24 February 2008 :  22:44:54  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
I can understand the Fun factor of it in fact at some point I am sure I will purchase a computer for the mere fact of playing with linux. I also am going ot build a windows box I just got windows server 2003 so I am excited to also get the hardware to learn that program and see what I can come up with.

But I find it always fun to play and see what you can do I just didn't know if there was an advantage in one or the other is all.
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