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Addicted2HD
Starting Member

21 Posts

Posted - 21 January 2008 :  14:21:49  Show Profile
Hi,

I had an unauthorized admin register this morning on version 3.4.06. Luckily the person who watches the board caught this before anything malicious was done, at least as far as we can tell. The only thing that was done was turn BB code off and HTML code on. This broke some links on the main forum page but all has been restored and the offending user has been locked out. The situation seems to be contained.

I have a couple of questions.

1. What can I do to make sure this situation is contained?

2. What can I do to ensure this doesn't happen again? I read another topic from June/August 2007 time frame that said version 3.4.03 had security issues that allowed such activity but I'm running the latest version I think.

TIA,
Scott

AnonJr
Moderator

United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 21 January 2008 :  14:25:35  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Might check the sticky topics at the top of this forum...

quote:
Check the "Announcements: Security Related Bug Fixes" forum - and subscribe to it so you'll be notified of any other issues that pop up. This is probably a result of the issue that was patched on 1 Dec 2007.


Might want to read the rest of the topic too:

http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=66113

Edited by - AnonJr on 21 January 2008 14:26:26
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Addicted2HD
Starting Member

21 Posts

Posted - 21 January 2008 :  14:29:11  Show Profile
Thanks for the reply. Of course after I submitted my post I saw the sticky for the "If you've been hacked recently" topic. I was trying to be efficient and do a search for what I was looking for information on and never saw the sticky until after I posted.

Security patch has been applied. Now I'll go check the other stuff out like the shut down message and other settings.

Thanks,
Scott
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philwhite
Starting Member

Germany
47 Posts

Posted - 23 January 2008 :  22:22:47  Show Profile
I got hit last night and applied the patches, deleted the user and so on. One strange thing remains.

One Question. What is the JumpBoxChanged Application Variable? This was timestamped a few minutes after the hack. Having removed the iframe (yes, I had one), this has now changed to the current time.


Phil White
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muzishun
Senior Member

United States
1079 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2008 :  00:59:07  Show Profile  Visit muzishun's Homepage
There's a JumpBox application variable, but not a JumpBoxChanged (at least not in a base install). What's the value of that variable when you go to Forum Variables Information in the Admin Options, or does it still show up on the list?

Bill Parrott
Senior Web Programmer, University of Kansas
Co-Owner and Code Monkey, Eternal Second Designs (www.eternalsecond.com)
Personal Website (www.chimericdream.com)
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philwhite
Starting Member

Germany
47 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2008 :  07:21:35  Show Profile
Yes, it still shows up. It had a timestamp a few minutes after the member joined and now has a timestamp of the time I eliminated the iframe from the forum description.

I'm running 3.4.05 and as far as I'm aware (it's a long time ago), I only have the PM and IPGate mods installed over the top.

It's right at the end of the list along with "down" (lowercase) with a value of false and "DownMessage" with no contents.

It's used in inc_jump_to.asp, pop_delete.asp and post_info.asp.

Right at the start of inc_jump_to.asp there is the following code

if IsEmpty(Application(strCookieURL & "JumpBoxChanged")) then
	strJumpBoxChanged = Session(strCookieURL & "JumpBoxDate")
else
	strJumpBoxChanged = Application(strCookieURL & "JumpBoxChanged")
end if
if IsEmpty(Session(strCookieURL & "JumpBox")) or (strJumpBoxChanged > Session(strCookieURL & "JumpBoxDate")) then
	Dim strSelectBox
	if allAllowedForums = "" or isNull(allAllowedForums) then
...


In the other two files, there are several occurrences of

Application(strCookieURL & "JumpBoxChanged")= DateToStr(strForumTimeAdjust)

(2 in pop_delete and 6 in post_info)

These lines are in the original, unmodded distribution I picked up at the end of 2004, so I assume they are okay.


Phil White
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2008 :  07:34:39  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
There's nothing to worry about.


Snitz 3.4 Readme | Like the support? Support Snitz too
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philwhite
Starting Member

Germany
47 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2008 :  07:44:59  Show Profile
Thanks.

Phil White
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cobrachen
Starting Member

48 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2008 :  12:52:35  Show Profile
A question:

If I turn on the feature that all new account has to be activated before use, is it possible a hacker can create an account without activation by using SQL injection or code?

Thanks.
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muzishun
Senior Member

United States
1079 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2008 :  13:45:35  Show Profile  Visit muzishun's Homepage
Hopefully not, considering that all values are/should be sanitized before interacting with the database. Of course, the occasional bug is found. If and when they are, just make sure to keep up to date with the latest fixes.

But to answer your question, yes it is possible (nobody can 100% guarantee bug-free software), but highly unlikely.

Bill Parrott
Senior Web Programmer, University of Kansas
Co-Owner and Code Monkey, Eternal Second Designs (www.eternalsecond.com)
Personal Website (www.chimericdream.com)
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cobrachen
Starting Member

48 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2008 :  13:52:58  Show Profile
Thank you very much for your quick answers. I believe this feature at least can be one layer of detection to help the whole security issues.
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muzishun
Senior Member

United States
1079 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2008 :  14:49:08  Show Profile  Visit muzishun's Homepage
You're welcome.

Bill Parrott
Senior Web Programmer, University of Kansas
Co-Owner and Code Monkey, Eternal Second Designs (www.eternalsecond.com)
Personal Website (www.chimericdream.com)
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