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toxi_srb
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  05:37:22  Show Profile  Visit toxi_srb's Homepage
I have BIIIGGG problem with forum. It was been set to work with unicode encoding and all was OK. But today everywhere instead of non-ASCII chars are some silly chars like ?#65533;?#65533;?1?#65533;?oNf ?3?#65533; ?1?#65533;N^?#65533;N#65533; N#65533;???3N#65533;N#65533;?#65533;N#65533;N#65533;?#65533;?
In database( i using access) that is reprezented like this:
Домаћи блог

What's happen?

ruirib
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  05:45:30  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
What changed in the server or the forum?


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toxi_srb
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  06:04:49  Show Profile  Visit toxi_srb's Homepage
Nothing. Last night all was been OK, now data are broken...
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ruirib
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  07:11:57  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Well things like those don't just happen. Talk to your host to find out if something was done to the server.


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toxi_srb
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  11:28:47  Show Profile  Visit toxi_srb's Homepage
I upload new index page to my site yesterday and now there is link to forum "Active Topics"(active.asp), nothing more.

quote:

Talk to your host to find out if something was done to the server.


OK, i will.

But is there any way to recover data?
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ruirib
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  11:32:31  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
I don't think data is lost, it's just showing incorrectly.


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toxi_srb
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  12:21:30  Show Profile  Visit toxi_srb's Homepage
Will it been helpfull if i give you database file?
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ruirib
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  12:29:03  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
What would be the purpose of doing that?

If you can open the DB, is the info stored properly? Can you see the correct characters?


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TSAloha
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  12:54:27  Show Profile
Could be a simple problem on your client side.
Often character sets rendering issues are associated with presentation layer issue (browser), not application (Snitz Forums) nor data layer (access db, esp. 2000 which support unicode encoding).
What client web enviornment/browser are you using and with what encoding setting?
If a default browser encoding setting is switched to others than "unicode/utf-8" any unicoded contents will render with ??? or white boxes. There is usually no problem in rendering basic ASCII (or western european) character sets in unicode selected browser environment.

Also, a newly created index.asp you uploaded saved in what encoding format? Does it contain texts/text strings other than codes? if so, index.asp needs to be saved as utf-8 format file. If it is not unicoded file, then, it could be causing encoding conflicts with unicoded forum.

Edited by - TSAloha on 18 December 2007 13:00:50
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toxi_srb
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  13:55:34  Show Profile  Visit toxi_srb's Homepage
Thanks all you guy for replays!
quote:
Originally posted by ruirib

What would be the purpose of doing that?

If you can open the DB, is the info stored properly? Can you see the correct characters?



Well, i say:
quote:

In database( i using access) that is reprezented like this:
Домаћи блог


So when i open .mdb file with MS Access i dont see right data. I dont know why that is happened, before everything was been OK.

@TSAloha
No, encoding are well set.

quote:

Also, a newly created index.asp you uploaded saved in what encoding format? Does it contain texts/text strings other than codes? if so, index.asp needs to be saved as utf-8 format file. If it is not unicoded file, then, it could be causing encoding conflicts with unicoded forum.


Misunderstanding. I uploaded the index.PHP file and not even in the same directory as the forum is. I mention that only because that is the only thing changed on server since this "data lost" happen. And, in that index.php there is a link to "forum/active.asp" page. Nothing more.

Now, when i enter unicode character( in newly started thread etc.) it is display( and stored in db) correctly.

So, everything are completly OK except old data. And if that data is lost, then i lost a lot of it :(

Edited by - toxi_srb on 18 December 2007 14:04:03
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AnonJr
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  14:13:55  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Not sure if it will help (but it won't hurt) - you may want to do a "Compact and Repair" on your .mdb

Just don't forget to make a backup...
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TSAloha
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USA
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  14:15:48  Show Profile
From my own trial and error experience, I had a similar experience of getting data sets corrupted when I somehow screwed up encoding settings (similar to your situation, if I recall correctly). I have a funny feeling that you might have caused overwritting the old records/data sets with corrupted encoding charsets though I hope this is not a case. In my case, I had to re-enter all posts/topics with unicoded charset inputs, so that all data entities will be properly "reformatted."

Did you save/backup your old data before this problem occurred? If so, you may have less husstle of re-doing as I did...

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ruirib
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Posted - 18 December 2007 :  15:26:44  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Maybe you did a Compact database op before this happened?


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