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svickrey
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USA
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Posted - 02 May 2006 :  20:42:32  Show Profile  Visit svickrey's Homepage
You warned me not to make anyone an admin unless you truley trusted this person. I really thout I had found someone that I could really trust but this turned out not to be true...errrr. The have admin priveledges and have removed me as admin. I still have control over the DB and the site can I regain control of my forum I have worked so hard to build?

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leatherlips
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USA
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Posted - 02 May 2006 :  21:00:38  Show Profile  Visit leatherlips's Homepage
If you go to your database, you can change the level of yourself and the other "admin". With the Access database, you can open up the Forum_Members table and M_Level column, change yours back to 3 and change your "admin" to 1. You'll then become the admin again and the other person will become normal.

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AnonJr
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United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 02 May 2006 :  21:34:13  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
I didn't think anybody could change the Super Admin's account without some other coding/db shenanigans...

Did they have any access to the DB and or the files on the server?

Also, now that I think about it, do you see any other accounts marked as admin/moderator that shouldn't be? Sometimes if someone is really up to no good they'll create an extra account or two and make them admins as well... and/or they may leave a file or two (if they have the ability to do this) to help them re-set their Admin privileges. They may not have done this, but it never hurts to double-check.

Edited by - AnonJr on 02 May 2006 21:36:41
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bobby131313
Senior Member

USA
1163 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  00:14:38  Show Profile  Visit bobby131313's Homepage

I too, don't understand how an admin changes a super-admin at all without server access.


Switch the order of your title tags

Edited by - bobby131313 on 03 May 2006 00:19:00
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imweazel
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49 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  08:33:05  Show Profile
Once you have access to the admin section, I would think they would use the Alternate Mod Setup to run a few SQL updates to make the changes.
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AnonJr
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United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  08:36:38  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Hmm. I never thought of that... always kind of assumed that only the Super Admin had access to the Alternate MOD Setup (and the MOD setup too for that matter). Maybe I better go back and make it so...
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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 03 May 2006 :  08:43:26  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Only the SuperAdmin has access to mod setup or alternate mod setup.


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AnonJr
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United States
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Posted - 03 May 2006 :  08:46:46  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Ok. I thought so.

That brings the question back around:

Did they have any access to the DB and or the files on the server?

Also, do you see any other accounts marked as admin/moderator that shouldn't be? Sometimes if someone is really up to no good they'll create an extra account or two and make them admins as well... and/or they may leave a file or two (if they have the ability to do this) to help them re-set their Admin privileges. They may not have done this, but it never hurts to double-check.
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imweazel
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Posted - 03 May 2006 :  11:46:35  Show Profile
I took it to mean that svickrey gave the user a m_level of 3 when he said the user has admin privileges. This would give them access to the Alt Mod Setup I believe.
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  11:48:09  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by imweazel

I took it to mean that svickrey gave the user a m_level of 3 when he said the user has admin privileges. This would give them access to the Alt Mod Setup I believe.


No. Only the SuperAdmin can use the alternate mod setup.


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AnonJr
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United States
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Posted - 03 May 2006 :  11:59:54  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it essentially check the value of intAdminMemberID - which is assigned in config.asp - to determine the SuperAdmin? Would changing the SuperAdmin's m_lev value prevent them from accessing the admin options?
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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 03 May 2006 :  12:02:33  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Yes, it does check the value of intAdminMemberID to determine the SuperAdmin. Again, yes, changing the mlev value would prevent the user from accessing admin options.


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AnonJr
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United States
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Posted - 03 May 2006 :  12:17:30  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Interesting...

I guess we need to get back to answering the original question...
quote:
can I regain control of my forum I have worked so hard to build?


First, I'd probably change the passwords for access to the server and database, and then I'd check to see if your member id is still listed as the value of intAdminMemberID in config.asp

Next step would be to .... to remember what the next step was ...

If I'm remembering right, you would need to make sure that the value of M_LEVEL for your account is set to 3 in the database.

Then I'd go lock their account and check to see if they didn't leave themselves any extra admin accounts or extra files to re-insert themselves as admin.

I'd swear I was missing a step, but its lunch time.

Edited by - AnonJr on 03 May 2006 12:18:12
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  14:16:15  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
All that would be needed would be to change the hijacking member's M_Level back to 1, change the new admin to be member M_Level to 3. Of course, set intAdminMemberID to the new admin member id.

Change all admin level member's passwords, probably all moderator passwords as well. This would work, admiting that the hijacking member has no server access (FTP or otherwise).


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HuwR
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United Kingdom
20595 Posts

Posted - 19 May 2006 :  15:55:15  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
and why should we email you, are you unable to use email yourself ?

There is never any excuse for doing what you did, even if you do think you have found a security hole in Snitz, there is nothing that could condone hijacking somebody elses site, if you are so hot shot sure you can do it, then do it here I dare you.

Edited by - HuwR on 19 May 2006 15:56:01
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
20595 Posts

Posted - 19 May 2006 :  15:59:58  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
if you need server access to do it then how is it a security hole in Snitz smart ass
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