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prescottw
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 Posted - 15 September 2005 : 01:16:06
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Sometimes a single site will lose background color and all the images will fail. Even though three sites databases are on the same SQL server, the other sites don't fail.
I just check installation on the failing one and things are back to normal. The site that fails is on a W2k while the others are on a 2003.
Now does anyone think that it's a reboot on the 2000 server that's doing this or do you think it's the SQL server being rebooted then the site on the 2000 server doesn't re-configure correctly.
Sorry if I sound confusing but I have to admit This is one question that I can't figure out.
I'm on 2 shared reseller accounts and I'm getting ready to go dedicated and I just want to clear these things up before I make final Decisions.
Thank You.
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 01:52:04
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| That happens because application variables are lost. Running setup.asp (which is what happens when you check the installation) restores the values. Now, why would that happen with a Win2K box more than with a Windows 2003 box I can't tell. It's not a DB issue, it's a web server issue. |
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prescottw
Junior Member
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 08:36:43
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Thank you ruirib very much. It's my understanding that when one goes dedicated that alot of technical support is lost in the conversion and these issues are the ones I must face.
Thanks again.
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 08:51:29
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quote:
Originally posted by prescottw
(...) It's my understanding that when one goes dedicated that alot of technical support is lost in the conversion (...)-prescottw
I don't think I understood you. What exactly do you mean? |
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prescottw
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 09:20:07
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I've been lead to believe that shared server technical support is for the most part there for a client when something goes wrong with the clients site. No matter what the reason may be. I've been very fortunate in this aspect.
When on a dedicated server I have been explained to by sales people that the dedicated server is just like having full control of a server as if it were physically in your possession. So if something fails it's up to the client to troubleshoot the issue.
Some dedicated packages will even charge a fee after the second reboot per month.
So I guess what I'm trying to explain is with 2000 or 2003, Helm and some bandwith. I feel as if I will be on my own once I decide to go dedicated.
Even though the DB will be on shared SQL Server I will for the most part be on my own.
See I'm even having a difficult time trying to explain it.
Thanks ruirib.
-prescottw
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ruirib
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 09:23:40
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| Well I thought that was the case, but I wanted to make sure. Not that this is my business, but do you have enough traffic to justify a dedicated web server? Managing a server can be a bit of a task, so you should consider that too. Too many times I've seen a push to have people move to a dedicated server where there seemed to be no need for that. |
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pdrg
Support Moderator
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 09:46:08
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Backing up Rui here - dedicated servers are expensive, hard work - you have to manage your own antivirus, patches, updates, system health, ugh!
Unless you have a particularly demanding site, I wouldn't bother (having managed server farms in the past, I do not reccommend it unless you want to make a career of it!) |
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prescottw
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 10:31:44
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I'm not sure I need the dedicated server for my own site's traffic. But on the otherhand with 800 sites on the one server along with 7 of mine attached.
And one site of mine on another server that has about that amount of shared traffic. I'm looking for opening speed.
And...No interferrence from the server bogging down because of (several reasons here).
I'm going to say that I am very fortunate with my windows service support.
Funny, I have a third linux reseller account that goes down occasionally. I use it for sendmail and CGI. I have a syndication script that I run for front page reasons on the 8 windows sites. But if that server is down my windows sites don't open at all. Just an empty fold.
So I guess I'm looking at the consolidation of all for 99.9999 uptime.
But both of you are right about the details of running a dedicated server.
If and when my sites pay off then that will be a whole different thing. I will be able to afford the expertise of paid support.
I really appreciate your help here. I've been with Snitz for over 3 years. But I had been so busy with my day job I didn't have the time to enjoy the Q@A that Snitz so well provides.
If you have any ideas or input I would still appreciate it.
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pdrg
Support Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 10:41:14
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The third (and by far most expensive) solution is a Managed Server - dedicated, but they do all the patching and stuff for you.
If you stay shared for now, maybe try asking your host if they have a server with lower contention for system resources, for which you could pay a small amount more?
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prescottw
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 10:51:20
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I like the way you put it, "A server with lower contention for system resources, for which you could pay a small amount more?"
That's the one!
Thank You again.
-prescottw
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pdrg
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 10:53:25
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Heh no problem, happy to help  |
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