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Astralis
Senior Member
USA
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 Posted - 25 June 2005 : 17:54:54
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At CrystalTech, there is a thread devoted to attacking Snitz. While I agree that 1) the code is old and 2) the design appears clunky compared to CSS-designed forums, I cannot see anything wrong functionally nor performance-wise with the code and no one in that thread can give any reasons what's wrong with it besides the two problems I mentioned. And, there's nothing wrong with old code - it's mature and I feel a lot safer with it than newer code.
Chime in there if you host on CrystalTech and see if you can get a reason out of them why they don't like Snitz.
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I can't do anything else than agree with MorningZ... Snitz sucks...
I'm really trying to get an honest debate because I can't see any reason yet to switch to a different forum nor "upgrade" to .NET and wanted to see if this sense is just based on prejudice or on actual technical reasons why they don't like Snitz. |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20584 Posts |
Posted - 27 June 2005 : 05:00:44
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| If the reason has anything to do with the search problem stated in the initial post, then they are just a bunch of twats, the search problem occurs because some numbskull has deleted a topic from the database without using the forum software to do it and there is therefore a missing topic, but the replies are still there which is why they show up in the search result but you can't access it. |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 27 June 2005 : 05:42:33
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That MorningZ character has alwayas attacked Snitz. Quite frankly the argument that Snitz is old is just plain stupid. Nevertheless, anyone can say what they feel and they can choose whatever they want. For each guy that badmouthes Snitz there will be a lotta others that like it.
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Mr Pink
Junior Member
United Kingdom
387 Posts |
Posted - 27 June 2005 : 08:05:41
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| You can't beat preaching to the converted. I would just let them fester in whatever issues they seem to have. Their problem. |
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sr_erick
Senior Member
USA
1318 Posts |
Posted - 27 June 2005 : 09:57:44
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| Seems like those guys want an "easy to throw together solution" for their sites. It's like either they are hardcore programmers or noobies. They seem like hardcore programmers, why wouldn't they want to mess with the code (in snitz) to fit it to their likings? A bunch of babies if you ask me. Sure it doesn't support everything they want, deal with it, add it, change it. That's what open source is all about. Snitz has one single biggest weakness, and that is the lack of proper support for skins. Other than that, everything else can easily be added on. |
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Posted - 28 June 2005 : 20:11:03
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Yes, the design may appear clunky to some. It was never meant to be flashy. Me personally, I like less graphics. The less the better. But does that mean that Snitz sucks? I don't think so. Our scripts may not be documented (to keep the file sizes down), but it is clean and formatted and easy to modify.
The lack of development is partly my fault. My main goal was to get the forum as stable, efficient and bug-free as possible, and I think we did that. The Search issue has always been an issue, anyone who wants to offer a solution, please do so. The source is available to everyone and anyone can develop/update it. |
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Doug G
Support Moderator
USA
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Posted - 29 June 2005 : 22:49:43
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I agree with Richard and I think all the real contributing developers of Snitz have done an admirable job.
Being a long-time Crystaltech user and forum lurker, my advice is to simply ignore Morning Z's rants. He's still upset because he apparently added some questionable mods to his Snitz that caused performance and resource loss problems, and he got kicked off CT.
Consider the source, I say :) If CT decides to change forums, so be it, it's their decision. I know CT has made a lot of modifications to the Snitz code that might be hard to duplicate in another forum package. Look at the response of the forum there, it's quite "snappy" imho.
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 30 June 2005 : 00:48:29
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While browsing the Internet, it seems very popular these days to downplay any web application using Classic ASP. While I've been doing a lot of ASP.NET development at work lately, there's just something about Classic ASP that makes me feel as if I have more control.
I've been playing with Community Server as well and it surely has its share of major problems and it a pain in the neck to modify.
Sounds like MorningZ wants to complain but not take action. In his own words he stated that .NET is overkill for their forum, so what does he want to use? PHP? Sounds like a major digression to me. |
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seahorse
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 08 July 2005 : 19:20:30
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PHP has it's own problems too.
PHP recently had some kind of security problem related to XML didn't it? |
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Doug G
Support Moderator
USA
6493 Posts |
Posted - 08 July 2005 : 21:02:16
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Keep in mind, MorningZ is just another user at CT with no real say in what they use. CT is a great host, and so far they remain with Snitz, probably because it works well and would be too much work to change to something else, not to mention they supply the user forums for free, not to generate any revenue for CT.
If they ever decide to change away from Snitz, though, it won't offend me. CT will do what they think is in their own best interests.
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