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Machina
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Switzerland
74 Posts

Posted - 11 February 2005 :  05:44:46  Show Profile  Visit Machina's Homepage
Hello everybody

I have a recurrent problem on my snitz forum. Sometime someone will get a time out when he sends the reply in a topic.

But, the reply is written in the database.

The problem, is : when this happens in a topic, this topic becomes very very very long to access to.

Do you have any idea about the origin of such a problem? I asked my administrators to verify the sql server, the proxy, but they don't know...

Machina
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http://www.jaboulay.fr
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Snitz based site:
http://www.itu.int/YLinICTs
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
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Posted - 11 February 2005 :  05:54:58  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Are you using Subscriptions?


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Machina
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Switzerland
74 Posts

Posted - 11 February 2005 :  06:18:21  Show Profile  Visit Machina's Homepage
No, I don't use subscription

Machina
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http://www.jaboulay.fr
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Snitz based site:
http://www.itu.int/YLinICTs
MODS Used : TMPJ's Header Cell Image, Site Integration, Front Page News, News Events Calendar, Nikkol's Usergroups, Simple Slash, Avatar, File Sharing, Links
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Machina
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Switzerland
74 Posts

Posted - 11 February 2005 :  06:26:11  Show Profile  Visit Machina's Homepage
For example, this page http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/youth/YLinICTs/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=578

took 36 seconds to be generated

Machina
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http://www.jaboulay.fr
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Snitz based site:
http://www.itu.int/YLinICTs
MODS Used : TMPJ's Header Cell Image, Site Integration, Front Page News, News Events Calendar, Nikkol's Usergroups, Simple Slash, Avatar, File Sharing, Links
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 11 February 2005 :  10:27:13  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Machina

For example, this page http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/youth/YLinICTs/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=578

took 36 seconds to be generated


Did you create your SQL tables using the forums setup.asp ? or did you migrate from Access to SQL, if so you may not have any indexes.

If yo did use the forums setup to create your tables, then it your server is either underpowered or extremely overloaded
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Machina
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Switzerland
74 Posts

Posted - 11 February 2005 :  11:13:47  Show Profile  Visit Machina's Homepage
It is not a migration from Access. I created it directly in SQL server with Snitz setup and indexes are here.

When I get the problem, the Reply record is created but the corresponding Topic is not updated.

Maybe should I ask again my administrator

Machina
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http://www.jaboulay.fr
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Snitz based site:
http://www.itu.int/YLinICTs
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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 11 February 2005 :  12:38:30  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
I would say the issue may lie with your server, indeed. Anyway, have you compared the database record of such a reply and a "normal" one? Any meaninful difference? What about the topic?


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Machina
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Switzerland
74 Posts

Posted - 14 February 2005 :  04:33:41  Show Profile  Visit Machina's Homepage
I looked at the records, and I noticed that the information was correct for the reply records, but the topic record was not updated at all. As if it didn't get the write authorization for this specific record. What is interesting is that even if I manually corrected the information of the Topic so that it is updated, this topic continued to make problems for the following replies. The reply records are normal.

I will inquire more deeply when this problem occurs again.

Bizarre

Machina
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http://www.jaboulay.fr
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Snitz based site:
http://www.itu.int/YLinICTs
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Machina
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Switzerland
74 Posts

Posted - 21 February 2005 :  09:53:48  Show Profile  Visit Machina's Homepage
Problem solved Partially

I changed the NTEXT fields in TEXT type. I knew there was an issue with ntext but I only dared today to make this change.

It works really better now

Machina
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http://www.jaboulay.fr
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Snitz based site:
http://www.itu.int/YLinICTs
MODS Used : TMPJ's Header Cell Image, Site Integration, Front Page News, News Events Calendar, Nikkol's Usergroups, Simple Slash, Avatar, File Sharing, Links

Edited by - Machina on 22 February 2005 05:56:33
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Machina
New Member

Switzerland
74 Posts

Posted - 22 February 2005 :  05:57:47  Show Profile  Visit Machina's Homepage
Changing the type NTEXT to TEXT solved the problem to all the replies and topics that were getting stuck during 30 seconds when you read them. Now the bug is still there and can still create this problem. So it is not the NTEXT type that makes the problem...

Machina
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http://www.jaboulay.fr
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Snitz based site:
http://www.itu.int/YLinICTs
MODS Used : TMPJ's Header Cell Image, Site Integration, Front Page News, News Events Calendar, Nikkol's Usergroups, Simple Slash, Avatar, File Sharing, Links
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 22 February 2005 :  08:29:37  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
That conclusion seems obvious to me. It's not a data type of a column that can cause such a situation. It may be a indexing issue, maybe the column type change made the database remake the index on the table.

Try rebuilding the database indexes running this in Query Analizer:

 sp_MSforeachtable @command1="print '?' DBCC DBREINDEX ('?')"



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Edited by - ruirib on 22 February 2005 08:31:05
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Machina
New Member

Switzerland
74 Posts

Posted - 22 February 2005 :  09:04:45  Show Profile  Visit Machina's Homepage
Thanks,

I ran this query. No error. It didn't solve the problem, the only topic still with this problem is still taking 35 seconds to be displayed.

I pray for the fast death of the current server so that we replace it

Machina
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http://www.jaboulay.fr
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Snitz based site:
http://www.itu.int/YLinICTs
MODS Used : TMPJ's Header Cell Image, Site Integration, Front Page News, News Events Calendar, Nikkol's Usergroups, Simple Slash, Avatar, File Sharing, Links
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