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Da_Stimulator
DEV Team Forum Moderator

USA
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Posted - 15 December 2004 :  14:07:05  Show Profile  Send Da_Stimulator an AOL message  Send Da_Stimulator a Yahoo! Message
related topic: http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=55791
davio's forum: http://www.dsilvera.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=410
My forum: http://www.cleanshare.org/kizzelwhix/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=45

Notice in my forum vs Davio's and this one, how the code expands the table (as it does in IE)

I removed the <font> tags from within the <pre> tags, and instead used inline stylesheets to format the text, and that seemed to fix the "problem"

As I stated in davio's forum (with code example), there are some minor attributes in these tags in the forum code, which upon removal, fixed the problem. I dont know that this is the fix, but it worked for my forum....

-Stim

Edited by - Da_Stimulator on 15 December 2004 14:08:55

dayve
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USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 15 December 2004 :  18:08:10  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
the real fix is to get away from html tags that are becoming depracated, such as the font tag, and begin using css to control formatting.


Edited by - dayve on 15 December 2004 18:09:45
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PeeWee.Inc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 December 2004 :  18:16:19  Show Profile  Visit PeeWee.Inc's Homepage
CSS is really a great thing.
It'll be great when Snitz moves away from nested tables and use's DIV's and CSS Kinda like Speedball (1,2 and soon to be 3) ()

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Edited by - PeeWee.Inc on 15 December 2004 18:17:04
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Podge
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Ireland
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Posted - 15 December 2004 :  19:09:47  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
For two reasons as far as I can see.

1. Improve browser rendering speed.
2. Simplify the code and make it more readable.

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Da_Stimulator
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USA
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Posted - 16 December 2004 :  10:03:23  Show Profile  Send Da_Stimulator an AOL message  Send Da_Stimulator a Yahoo! Message
I've seen several table-less sites...

but thats not what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about the code & quote tags at the moment, because sometimes when firefox resizes the text, its so small I have to copy & paste just to read it.

-Stim
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Doug G
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USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 16 December 2004 :  16:56:51  Show Profile
I've noticed the same thing with FireFox, and not just at this forum.

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DavidRhodes
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 December 2004 :  09:25:22  Show Profile
It's more likely to be FireFox doing it correctly and IE letting you off

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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2004 :  16:07:24  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by DavidRhodes

It's more likely to be FireFox doing it correctly and IE letting you off


If so then Firefox's idea of correct is incorrect. :)

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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
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Posted - 20 December 2004 :  17:51:00  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Doug G


If so then Firefox's idea of correct is incorrect. :)


Why? Firefox is more standard compliant than IE.

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dayve
Forum Moderator

USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2004 :  19:02:30  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Davio

quote:
Originally posted by Doug G


If so then Firefox's idea of correct is incorrect. :)


Why? Firefox is more standard compliant than IE.


which equates to Firefox having less features.

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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2004 :  19:21:01  Show Profile
Less features in terms of features of the browser or features the browser can display in websites?

But that wouldn't make Firefox any less of a good browser to use, just because it is standards compliant. If you want a feature rich site using cutting technology, you just have to prepare for only IE users to visit your site. And to understand that majority of the browsers out now are standard compliant and that the browser market is moving away from IE.

There is still a lot you can do with the current standards proposed by the W3C, that can give you a feature rich site.

I can only presume that many web developers have gotten so use to IE's non-standard features and coding that they can't imagine using anything else.

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dayve
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USA
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Posted - 20 December 2004 :  22:10:51  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
I prefer the "rich fat" experience ... this is coming from a users point of view, not a developers, although I'll have to admit, I love all the extra stuff you can do with web development using IE. I just don't jump on bandwagons that easily like a lot of people I know that did with Opera and Firefox. I'm not a Microsoft Hater either so I don't look for alternatives... I'm immensely happy with the Microsoft products I use so I'll stick with it. I only use Firefox, Opera and Netscape to ensure my sites work sufficiently with those browsers.

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Da_Stimulator
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USA
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Posted - 20 December 2004 :  23:46:17  Show Profile  Send Da_Stimulator an AOL message  Send Da_Stimulator a Yahoo! Message
Da_Stimulator Member: "Anti-Microsoft Cult"
Although I was checking out Microsoft's project code-named "Longhorn"....

-Stim

Edited by - Da_Stimulator on 20 December 2004 23:47:17
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dayve
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USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 21 December 2004 :  00:32:32  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
all anti-Microsoft people should refrain from using ALL Microsoft products... let's see how long you last.

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DavidRhodes
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United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 21 December 2004 :  08:53:35  Show Profile
I'm not anti-microsoft, but find that if you code for FireFox, chances are it'll work in other browsers. It's IE's CSS implementation that causes the problems, sure you've heard of the "box model problem", MS, in there infinite wisdom, decide to change the meaning of height/width!

The UK MkIVs Forum
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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 21 December 2004 :  21:38:41  Show Profile
I don't really care if it's a standards thing or not, I have to squint too much to read quotes with Firefox. There are standards and there is usability and being able to read the screen is usability. If firefox is rendering 100% properly and IE is not, then this thread belongs in the forum bugs forum :)


Anyone know the applicable standard to this difference in text size rendering between IE and Firefox?


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