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Da_Stimulator
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Posted - 07 December 2004 :  09:10:14  Show Profile  Send Da_Stimulator an AOL message  Send Da_Stimulator a Yahoo! Message
Is there any possible way to pick up referers that arent websites.... like if someone clicks a link in a yahoo chat window, or a msn chat window, is it possible to pick up that as a referer?

I ask in this forum cuz I figure it's probably more possible with .NET than 3.0

-Stim

dayve
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Posted - 07 December 2004 :  11:15:36  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
I don't use Yahoo Chat but I believe it is a Java Application so it is not possible. Reason being is that it is intended for returning information sent by a browser. Allowing any other application to give such kind of information would be a security breach of the operating system.

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Da_Stimulator
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Posted - 07 December 2004 :  13:12:41  Show Profile  Send Da_Stimulator an AOL message  Send Da_Stimulator a Yahoo! Message
I'm not talking about those java applications you use via internet browser, I'm talking the Instant message windows... but It's probably not possible from them either.

-Stim
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dayve
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Posted - 07 December 2004 :  14:47:24  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
I brought up Java because I thought you were using the Yahoo Web Chat.. but I did mention ANY application. It's all about security.

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Nathan
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Posted - 09 December 2004 :  06:19:01  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
Dump out the raw HTTP headers for a file requested by Yahoo Chat.

If there is any way to do what you want, you should be able to dig it out of the headers.

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dayve
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Posted - 09 December 2004 :  11:32:37  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
huh? please elaborate. I'm quite interested in your direction.

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Da_Stimulator
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Posted - 09 December 2004 :  11:35:16  Show Profile  Send Da_Stimulator an AOL message  Send Da_Stimulator a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by dayve

huh? please elaborate. I'm quite interested in your direction.



ditto

-Stim
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Nathan
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Posted - 17 December 2004 :  05:02:31  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
Go to the "server information" in the admin section of snitz. The first two variables listed are the HTTP_ALL and HTTP_RAW. Those are the text sent from your browser to request that page.

If there is any way to detect a link clicked in an application such as Yahoo chat, then it will show up in those headers.

I tried MSN messenger with no results.

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Gremlin
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Posted - 17 December 2004 :  06:27:26  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
I'd be pretty surprised if any application other than a browser passed a referer in the request personally, Nathans idea would be the only way to find anything though that I can think of.

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Da_Stimulator
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Posted - 30 January 2005 :  00:53:33  Show Profile  Send Da_Stimulator an AOL message  Send Da_Stimulator a Yahoo! Message
I tested that out and tried it with AoL, MSN, ICQ, and Yahoo with no unique results... so I guess that idea is down the tube

-Stim
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JamesCurran
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Posted - 01 February 2005 :  12:54:18  Show Profile  Visit JamesCurran's Homepage
The REFERER is just text passed along by whatever is making the http request. Whatever server-side framework you have (ASP or ASP.NET or PHP or whatever) can only pass the text on to you.

You might have better luck looking at the User agent (which is also just text passed along by whatever is making the http request) but here it's identifying itself, but more than likely, Aol/ICQ/etc are doing is launching the browser and having the browser make the request, which it treats as if you had typing in the URL.

Truth,
James Curran
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