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Jorrit787
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06 December 2004 :  14:05:21  Show Profile  Visit Jorrit787's Homepage  Send Jorrit787 an AOL message  Send Jorrit787 a Yahoo! Message
I have tested this, and when banned users use an IP cloaking device, they still have access... Is there any way to prevent this? Maybe banning the IP address 000.000.000.000

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dayve
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USA
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Posted - 06 December 2004 :  14:07:50  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
how are they cloaking? do you mean people behind a proxy server or service?

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Jorrit787
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06 December 2004 :  14:09:34  Show Profile  Visit Jorrit787's Homepage  Send Jorrit787 an AOL message  Send Jorrit787 a Yahoo! Message
I tried it using www.the-cloak.com

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dayve
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USA
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Posted - 06 December 2004 :  17:12:29  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
That is a proxy service. If you ban that ip address, then you will ban everyone using that service, but you need to be careful doing this. A lot of ISP's have their members go through a proxy service so you can inevitably block hundreds, thousands of people.

IP address 000.000.000.000 does not exist either.

Here is the IP and info on the proxy/cloaking service you pointed out:

http://www.samspade.org/t/ipwhois?a=216.127.72.7


Edited by - dayve on 06 December 2004 17:14:29
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Jorrit787
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06 December 2004 :  17:52:16  Show Profile  Visit Jorrit787's Homepage  Send Jorrit787 an AOL message  Send Jorrit787 a Yahoo! Message
If I were to put in the Terms and Conditions of my forum that it is not allowed to use any IP cloaking device, then could I ban the IP range stated? Would that work to block out (at least) this service?

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dayve
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USA
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Posted - 06 December 2004 :  18:31:24  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
you would not know all the cloaking services out there. there are a lot of proxy services available to those wanting to surf the internet anonymously at work, or simply they are behind a proxy server at their place of business which is very typical. In fact, as I type this, my address will show my proxy server address and not my workstation address.

is it really that big a deal?

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Jorrit787
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06 December 2004 :  18:41:07  Show Profile  Visit Jorrit787's Homepage  Send Jorrit787 an AOL message  Send Jorrit787 a Yahoo! Message
Not really, just trying to find a solution for this "bug" in the IP Gate mod, if you can call it a bug.

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gpctexas
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Posted - 06 December 2004 :  22:42:14  Show Profile  Visit gpctexas's Homepage
Which version of IPGate you have? 2.3 is newest released version There was an update to it a while back which addressed 'unknown' and 000's for ip addy.

If (Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_CLIENT_IP") <> "") and (lcase(Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_CLIENT_IP")) <> "unknown") then
   userip=Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_CLIENT_IP")
else
   if (Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR") <> "") and (lcase(Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR")) <> "unknown") then
      userip=Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR")
   else
      if (Request.ServerVariables("REMOTE_ADDR") <> "") and (lcase(Request.ServerVariables("REMOTE_ADDR")) <> "unknown")  then
         userip=Request.ServerVariables("REMOTE_ADDR")
      else
         userip="999.999.999.999"
      end if
   end if
end if



ipgate 2.4.4 RC3
http://www.gpctexas.net/ipgate_v244.zip
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Jorrit787
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Netherlands
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Posted - 07 December 2004 :  08:39:38  Show Profile  Visit Jorrit787's Homepage  Send Jorrit787 an AOL message  Send Jorrit787 a Yahoo! Message
This is what it says in the readme:

NET IPGATE v0.8.7 BETA (c)Aug 2002
by alex042@aol.com
modified by admin@gpctexas.net

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gpctexas
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320 Posts

Posted - 07 December 2004 :  14:04:48  Show Profile  Visit gpctexas's Homepage
Ah you have an old version.

here is new version info http://www.gpctexas.net/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=51

There will be some functionality changes in the one you have.

ipgate 2.4.4 RC3
http://www.gpctexas.net/ipgate_v244.zip
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Jorrit787
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Netherlands
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Posted - 07 December 2004 :  14:29:23  Show Profile  Visit Jorrit787's Homepage  Send Jorrit787 an AOL message  Send Jorrit787 a Yahoo! Message
Thanks, I upgraded it succesfully

So this update should address cloaking services like the one I mentioned?

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Edited by - Jorrit787 on 07 December 2004 15:02:23
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gpctexas
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Posted - 07 December 2004 :  17:35:19  Show Profile  Visit gpctexas's Homepage
It will attempt to find the best way to ban, it will look for the forwarded for ip of the user using the proxy, if it can't find the ip then it will use the proxy ip. If you have to u se the proxy ip and accidently ban an innocent person, You can add that person's name and ip and set expire ban and leave that record there and then the innocent user should be able to use the site.

The cookie function of this version is improved so using cookies may help you get the user and if the banned cookie is located on thier machine, then it will automatically add the new name.

ipgate 2.4.4 RC3
http://www.gpctexas.net/ipgate_v244.zip
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Jorrit787
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Netherlands
681 Posts

Posted - 07 December 2004 :  17:40:11  Show Profile  Visit Jorrit787's Homepage  Send Jorrit787 an AOL message  Send Jorrit787 a Yahoo! Message
Ok, thanks

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