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Doug G
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USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 02 June 2004 :  21:10:06  Show Profile
I'm sorry to hear the recovery hit some speed bumps :)

Might I recommend you get an older computer from ebay maybe and use it to install linux rather than dual-booting.

If you get a PIII-500 it will be marginally adequate for playing around. You can switch your monitor from box to box.

For a linux server (no GUI) I picked up an older IBM PII for about $20.00 off ebay.

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seahorse
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USA
1075 Posts

Posted - 02 June 2004 :  22:19:12  Show Profile  Visit seahorse's Homepage
The last time I tried to install a dual boot Linux/Windows on my PC it ate the hard drive too. That was 4 years ago and I haven't been back since.

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  05:32:52  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
If you just want to play around with Linux a little I'd highly recommend you just start off with Knoppix. It's boots from a CD and doesn't require installing physically on a hard drive, so your Windows isn't touched at all.

http://www.knoppix.org/

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sr_erick
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USA
1318 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  08:19:29  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
I've used knoppix before to save data that windows couldn't get to. Just created a samba share and transfered the data over. Worked like a charm.




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laser
Advanced Member

Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  08:36:39  Show Profile
Ditto, but I didn't even do the samba share, just copied directly off my deadish (as in non-booting but perfectly readable) XP drive onto another network drive.
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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
1527 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  13:42:58  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
quote:
So you were playing with SuSe at the time ?

Yes, Gremlin, it was SuSe 9.1. Looked pretty good while we were friends.

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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
1527 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  13:50:08  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Doug G

I'm sorry to hear the recovery hit some speed bumps :)

Might I recommend you get an older computer from ebay maybe and use it to install linux rather than dual-booting.

If you get a PIII-500 it will be marginally adequate for playing around. You can switch your monitor from box to box.

For a linux server (no GUI) I picked up an older IBM PII for about $20.00 off ebay.
That would be more fun for $20 than you can get at Tivoli these days!
I actually did use my ols 800Mhz Dell at first, but when SuSe didn't recognize it's dial-up modem I decided to try it on my machine, but couldn't get the DSL configured either before running into trouble with XP.

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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  14:56:47  Show Profile
Linux doesn't readily identify all your hardware, like Windows does. Most times you will have to download drivers for them.
And when using linux, forget the 'ease of use' you get when using Windows. Linux hasn't reached that stage yet when you don't have to do much to get a piece of hardware working, finding the different drives, etc.

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laser
Advanced Member

Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  16:56:41  Show Profile
As Gremlin said, Alfred, Knoppix is what you're after. It does a VERY good job at detecting all hardware and if you want to go for a hard drive install it can do that as well. Making Linux & Windows "play nice" together isn't too hard, but it will bite you if done the wrong way as you've seen
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seven
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USA
1037 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  17:56:04  Show Profile  Visit seven's Homepage
My recent data losses taught me a valuable lesson.... backup, backup, backup, backup, backup, backup!

I now have at least 3 different methods and locations that I backup to as well as a once a month archive I keep outside of my house... (I am in a prime hurricane target area).




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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  18:56:22  Show Profile
With Knoppix you can only "look" at linux.

If you want to play with linux, install programs, make scripts, and generally break your installation a few times as part of the learning process, you'll need a regular linux distro installed on a disk.

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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  23:20:21  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Technically yes it's look only, however you can run mySQL DB's and do all kinds of other things whilst still just booting from the CD, if your wanting too you can even custom build your own knoppix CD with different aps on it etc. Knoppix will just use your RAM as a harddrive, so theres still pleanty of ways to "play" with it without breaking your windows Disk partitions or touching your hard drive data.

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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 03 June 2004 :  23:37:26  Show Profile
I feel "restricted" if I don't have a box to play with where I can download and compile grub and totally screw up all my partitions

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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 04 June 2004 :  00:29:51  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
For sure I know what ya mean, but in Alfreds case I don't think he'll be doing any kernel recompiles or anything like that for a wee while yet :)

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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
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Posted - 04 June 2004 :  13:13:47  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
Gremlin is sure right with the "kernel recompiles", since I don't even know what a bloody *kernel* is! Military rank?
But - if anyone thinks I am discouraged by all this he would be wrong. As soon as I find that $20 Ebay box I'm gonna be right back at Linux! And Knoppix - Schnoppix! It'll be SuSe!

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