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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator
Netherlands
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 Posted - 08 March 2004 : 08:10:40
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For me oxle.com is purely a hobby, which costs me $ 0,51 a day. That's not much, but of course I'd like to retrieve as much as possible of those costs.
I hope that there are more people like me out there...people who are running a site, and are willing to exchange experiences.
I'm currently using Google Adsense on my site, for content-oriented ads, but I find that this program is not really what it sais it is.
Okay, the ads are 'light', and are in about 50% of the time actually content-oriented, but the earnings-model is so freakin' strange, that I really don't know if Google's fooling me or not. Some clicks are worth a whole buck, while others are worth less than a dollar-cent..
I've also considered some affiliate programs, but the ones I saw (PayPal, CD-WOW, Amazon) are so limited, that I won't be earning a dime in the next couple of years... For instance at CD-WOW they only pay if your balance is over 25 pounds, and if you're balance doesn't reach this amount in six months, your account is cancelled...
I guess there are more people over here with the same 'problem', who have usefull tips for a collegue !  |
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D3mon
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1685 Posts |
Posted - 08 March 2004 : 13:21:52
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| Adsense relies on the volume of fixed content on your site as a whole. Forums, technically, don't do a great deal for Adsense as the content of each page is always changing, so its hard for Adsense to pin down what each page is about. Try to introduce some large bodies of text that are on a tightly focussed subject (and one which is related to the subject of the site.) Many sites have 'articles' pages that cater for this. |
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Jezmeister
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1141 Posts |
Posted - 08 March 2004 : 13:56:36
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| well im in the same situation and i use Tradedoubler.com - they pay for a minimum of £20 - ive only jst made a quid in jst under a month tho |
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taropatch
Average Member
USA
741 Posts |
Posted - 08 March 2004 : 15:23:02
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I run a music related forum with almost 600 members. Costs me about $.30/day. I tried a bunch of affiliate programs, but it seems like Amazon is the only one people use.
I'm lucky that there are a loyal few who really like my site so they'll click through whenever they buy from Amazon. It's enough to cover my costs but not really a money maker. 4th quarter usually pays the best because of the holidays. |
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hippojimj
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 08 March 2004 : 18:57:43
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I don't know about making money with adsense, but it seems to me that it gets your site some traffic. In order to get relevant ads on your pages, they have to spider your site often. Someone correct me if I'm wrong with that.... because that's about the only reason I have adsense on my sites.
There are some other affiliate deals out there but everyone I've asked (that uses them a lot) has told me that there isn't much money there.... bummer, I say!
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator
Netherlands
2625 Posts |
Posted - 09 March 2004 : 01:40:59
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Hippojimj, I thought that also, but it seems that Google does not keep an index-record of the 'adsensed-pages', they only keep a record of the relevance to an existing ad. (That saves space).
I still receive only a once in the two weeks spider-cycle.
The funny thing with Adsense is that the earnings are very fluctuating.
Yesterday for example 15 clicks, worth $ 0,03....while two weeks ago I had one day with 7 clicks worth $ 2,17, and another day with 18 clicks worth $ 6,39 ...
Thát I find strange... |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
3859 Posts |
Posted - 09 March 2004 : 06:02:30
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Guys, do you need to be reminded that you are NOT allowed to discuss Google numbers at all (this was part of the contract you agreed to).
Anyway, the reason the price fluctuates (if you understand the system) is you have to know how much the advertiser is paying per click, and that just ain't possible. So yes, the click/cent ratio will change and there's no way to forecast it. |
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Jezmeister
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1141 Posts |
Posted - 09 March 2004 : 07:47:35
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| hmm affiliate programmes arent that bad really hippojimj - for example one of the programs i joined from Tradedoubler pays 15p per UV, ok it would only really work if u had a good number of unique members but if u do its a good amount... and their ads change every day 2... (ValueClick) |
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator
Netherlands
2625 Posts |
Posted - 09 March 2004 : 11:08:29
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Originally posted by laser
Guys, do you need to be reminded that you are NOT allowed to discuss Google numbers at all (this was part of the contract you agreed to).
I know, and that's why I only provide very little detail on the earnings.
However, I also find it very strange that this information is confidential...at least according to Google.
I've had a week of excellent earnings at Google, but now I'm back to less than 10 cents a day....today there haven't even been any impressions/clicks according to Google...
And thát I find strange, because the site has had over 700 pageviews today. It isn't much, but it's more than 0, so the impressions-counter should at least state more than 0 views.
I'm looking into the Tradedoubler program, so maybe that's a good solution. |
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Jezmeister
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1141 Posts |
Posted - 09 March 2004 : 13:33:49
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| tradedoubler is very good - assuming you get the unique visitors... |
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sr_erick
Senior Member
USA
1318 Posts |
Posted - 09 March 2004 : 13:42:27
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| I do very good with google, but then again most days I have over 30,000 page views. |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
3859 Posts |
Posted - 09 March 2004 : 15:35:44
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Google revenue is erratic, yes. But what would happen if you knew which ad's paid the most ?? .. you'd click on those ad's more  . My site averages about 6000 Google impressions per day, but the clicks & dollars per day changes DRASTICALLY. I'm pretty sure an advertiser can also change their click charge at any time, so they might pay 50c today, but 3c tomorrow.
At least with Google you actually get the money |
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader
Australia
2084 Posts |
Posted - 09 March 2004 : 15:58:18
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There is only one issue with TradeDoubler for me, and that is that it doesn't allow us in Australia to join, otherwise I would of given them a go.
Google are good, unless you work behind a proxy server and you get a heap of staff to go to your site and they start to get a few hits and say you are doing the clicks and you may be removed from the program.
But I am also suprised at the differences some days on the fees that are given. Some days you get a few dollars, others they give you nothing even if they say you have some clicks. But yest the do pay, I have 3 checks from them so far, and the lat one I am not cashing as it is under $US10.00 and it will cost me $AUS15.00 to cash and I work for a bank.
I would like a company that pays directly in to your bank account to avoid the fee. I need to make more from advertising and any suggestions would be good as I rate my site to run costs me about $AUS2.50 per day, plus power, equipment and of course time to keep it running. I have other sites, but they do not get anywhere near the traffic that my main site does.
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator
Netherlands
2625 Posts |
Posted - 09 March 2004 : 16:29:04
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| thanks for the responses. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who has some 'questionmarks' with the Google program. I've checked Tradedoubler, but I cannot seem to find if they support Geotargeting... |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
3859 Posts |
Posted - 09 March 2004 : 16:41:28
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| It's an easy solution, if you don't like Google then don't use it. Your excuse of "I only provide very little detail on the earnings." doesn't wash, you are not allowed to discuss them AT ALL!! |
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator
Netherlands
2625 Posts |
Posted - 10 March 2004 : 01:55:02
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Laser, I hear what you're saying, but let's have a look at what they really are saying...
There's nothing in the Program Policies, but in the terms it sais this:quote:
Confidentiality. You agree not to disclose Google Confidential Information without Google's prior written consent.
"Google Confidential Information" includes without limitation: (a) all Google software, technology, programming, technical specifications, materials, guidelines and documentation relating to the Program; (b) click-through rates or other statistics relating to Site performance in the Program provided to You by Google; and (c) any other information designated in writing by Google as "Confidential" or an equivalent designation.
But then again...according to this, quoting this information is illegal, ánd all topics on how to integrate Google Adsense in Snitz are illegal (they do discuss 'technical specifications, materials, guidelines and documentation relating to the Program') yeah right.
That's now exactly what I mean, why is Google making such a fuzz about it?! |
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Edited by - MarcelG on 10 March 2004 01:57:12 |
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