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sr_erick
Senior Member

USA
1318 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  14:14:20  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
Ok guys. Just asking some questions. This past january I used opprox. 50 gigs of transfer and the sister site, (polarisfiles.com) use approx. 30 gigs. What would be the best way for me to save bandwidth? I was thinking to impliment some CSS in default.asp, forum.asp, topic.asp, and all those other frequently visited files. Is there any other way I could optomize the files? I need to prepare for next season as the trend has been a doubling or tripling in traffic each season since I started the site. Anyone got any ideas? I sure don't have a problem implimenting CSS for fonts, etc.. is there anything else I can CSS?

Thank!




Erick
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zeth
Junior Member

United Kingdom
117 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  14:15:26  Show Profile  Visit zeth's Homepage
It has already been done mate, http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=45166

THEOLOGY.ME.UK CROSSRING.COM
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sr_erick
Senior Member

USA
1318 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  14:31:49  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
Yea, I did know about that. I don't know if I want to go that route, or do it myself, or what I want to do. Confusing




Erick
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weeweeslap
Senior Member

USA
1077 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  14:39:32  Show Profile  Visit weeweeslap's Homepage  Send weeweeslap an AOL message  Send weeweeslap a Yahoo! Message
keep in mind that your site is heavily modded and I don't think you'd want to go through that much modding, maybe best route to self mod it

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zeth
Junior Member

United Kingdom
117 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  15:08:30  Show Profile  Visit zeth's Homepage
I think if you really want to CSS it properly then it requires so much modification (to almost every file) then it is quicker to use Speedball and then adds the Mods.

I did have versions of all the major MODS done for Speedball but now D3mon made version 2. If you give everyone a week then you might find that a lot of MODs are done already.

THEOLOGY.ME.UK CROSSRING.COM
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sr_erick
Senior Member

USA
1318 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  15:17:53  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
Well I did a little test. By just replacing the default page with speedball version and implimenting the CSS include file i managed to save about 50 k. I think when it's all said and done I could save quite a bit of transfer. I do have compression enabled on the server so the file sizes of the html would be around 9-10 k for default page and then about 17-30 k in graphics.




Erick
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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  15:50:04  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
Imagine if you did that with all the pages, especially the Active Topics page, which your readers could set to refresh every minute, all day!


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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  16:30:55  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/snitz/speedball/demo - using Speedball II (default)
http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/snitz/speedball/compare - using 3.4.04 (default)
Both using same DB:

default.asp
20.79K (v3.4.04)
12.27K (Speedball2)
47% saving

forum.asp
65.71 KB (v3.4.04)
40.32 KB (Speedball2)
39% saving

topic.asp
94.9 KB (v3.4.04)
63.47 KB (Speedball2)
33% saving

active.asp
100.53 KB (v3.4.04)
57.35 KB (Speedball2)
43% saving

Overall, approx 40% saving in bandwidth usage with Speedball II


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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  18:32:24  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
quote:
I do have compression enabled on the server so the file sizes
Be aware this can sometimes produce the opposite effect .. there are issues experienced sometimes with compression that cause pages not to refresh properly, and the user has to force refresh them to display properly .. in effect probably using more bandwidth than the compressions saving.

Kiwihosting.Net - The Forum Hosting Specialists

Edited by - Gremlin on 07 February 2004 18:32:50
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DavidRhodes
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  18:33:10  Show Profile
40% is excellent, I am currently using in excess of 100Gb per month!! but I have so mant mods that I don't want to start over with Speedball

The UK MkIVs Forum
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sr_erick
Senior Member

USA
1318 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  19:12:08  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by Gremlin

quote:
I do have compression enabled on the server so the file sizes
Be aware this can sometimes produce the opposite effect .. there are issues experienced sometimes with compression that cause pages not to refresh properly, and the user has to force refresh them to display properly .. in effect probably using more bandwidth than the compressions saving.



I have already seen the effects of this but fixed it long ago...

Response.CacheControl="private, max-age=0"

This works real well, I have absolutly no problems.

David, your bandwidth consumption seems a little out of line, alomst too high for the amount of posts and users I see you have at your boards. Do you host a lot of videos?




Erick
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Edited by - sr_erick on 07 February 2004 19:13:59
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zeth
Junior Member

United Kingdom
117 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  19:36:52  Show Profile  Visit zeth's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by DavidRhodes

40% is excellent, I am currently using in excess of 100Gb per month!! but I have so mant mods that I don't want to start over with Speedball



Just throw it in with a site redesign, and keep good records of what MODs you use and other DIY changes.

I keep a text file of what MODs I use etc, simple but really helps I find.

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DavidRhodes
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  19:42:45  Show Profile
sr_erick, used to have the gallery mod which was abused (ie lots of external hosting)

The UK MkIVs Forum
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  20:18:48  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Actually with cache control and other such things in there I've *still* seen problems with caching with compression switched on sr_erick you can get IIS to automatically put the cache control headers in there for you, didn't make any difference for us either hard coding them or using IIS to insert them.

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sr_erick
Senior Member

USA
1318 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  21:40:50  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
Well I haven't had any problems. None of my users ever have to refresh pages.




Erick
Snowmobile Fanatics

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redbrad0
Advanced Member

USA
3725 Posts

Posted - 08 February 2004 :  12:12:31  Show Profile  Visit redbrad0's Homepage  Send redbrad0 an AOL message
If I was you, I would start to CSS what you have. I would make a backup like

default.asp_original
default.asp_css
default.asp_speedball

This way you can save your current one as the original incase you might ever need to go back to it. Then save the CSS one that works because it could be easier to use instead of the speedball file which you would then remove all the extra spaces that are not used.

Brad
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