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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 23 January 2004 :  03:09:39  Show Profile
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/01/22/HNaolantispam_1.html

I wish someone would come up with something, SPAM is really getting out of hand.

One of my new duties at work is to go through the SPAM that our filtering software has flagged. I get to look at every message, anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 per night, to make sure legitimate ones haven't been filtered. Then if they have, I get to go through the logfile and see why it was filtered and then forward it on to the sender and all recipients explaining why it was filtered...

Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
6907 Posts

Posted - 23 January 2004 :  06:10:20  Show Profile
fun fun Richard. I'm getting complaints at work about all the SPAM as well. My problem is, I'm not allowed to implement a filter (at least right now).

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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 23 January 2004 :  07:39:47  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
I really don't envy you in the slightest Richard, that sounds like a real PITA job.

So far the best corporate defense I've seen is having any new email address verify themselves first by going to a webpage and keying in a number on the screen to verify they want the email forwarded to the recipient (this only happens the first time a person send an email to the particular domain). A bit of trouble for the sender, but seems to block most unwanted stuff pretty well

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Jeepaholic
Average Member

USA
697 Posts

Posted - 23 January 2004 :  12:45:45  Show Profile  Visit Jeepaholic's Homepage
I sure hope someone comes out with a good protocol that sticks, and the Internet community embraces it. All these bandaids simply aren't doing the trick.

Richard, what spam algorithm(s) are you using? I'm currently running SPAMCOP and a China/Korea Block-All list...which used to do well, but seems to be letting more and more spam in. Regardless, it's blocking 25% of emails and I'm still getting spammed. I'm curious if you've had successful (no false positives) with other algorithms?

Al

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sr_erick
Senior Member

USA
1318 Posts

Posted - 23 January 2004 :  13:21:38  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
At work we have spamassassin implimented into a system running on two linux boxes. It seems to be working extremelly well. Not a lot of legit blocked messages and it blocks a ton of spam.




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GregRadz
Starting Member

19 Posts

Posted - 23 January 2004 :  15:15:42  Show Profile
I have a very cheap solution that has scaled quite nicely. I started with one domain and a few emails addresses and now have about 350 email addresses on 6 domains.
Argosoft with Mail Filter Pro 3.0 and Paranoid Spam filter. I block a couple hundred messages per day and there are about 3-4 that get through. You have a probability level for the spam detection and at 70%, I block maybe 3-4 legit emails per month and fixing that issue is easy.
You can add and use all types of ban list includings MAPS and ORBS, SpamAssassin and more. You can also cutomize, with mail filter, what you are blocking, for example all .tz addresses.
www.argosoft.com www.sssolutions.com are the sites for these products.
Cheers
Greg

edit-isn't AOL still one of big sellers of usernames thus providing means for the very spammers they claims to hate?

Edited by - GregRadz on 23 January 2004 15:18:35
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2004 :  23:29:26  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Corporate solution wise, cloudmarks we've found to be extremely reliable. http://www.cloudmark.com/ The personal version works well too though atm I'm running Spam Inspector which works fairly reliably as well.

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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader

Australia
2084 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2004 :  23:50:12  Show Profile
The only problem with Cloudmark is they are now charging by the month or year.
quote:
Originally posted by Gremlin

Corporate solution wise, cloudmarks we've found to be extremely reliable. http://www.cloudmark.com/ The personal version works well too though atm I'm running Spam Inspector which works fairly reliably as well.

Was a great product when it was free but.

Cheers,

David Greening
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 25 January 2004 :  07:03:35  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Still not horribly expensive though .. sooner or later even email will stop becoming a free service anyway largely becuase of all the added costs that spam adds.

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radial
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USA
7 Posts

Posted - 25 January 2004 :  19:50:33  Show Profile  Visit radial's Homepage  Send radial an AOL message  Send radial a Yahoo! Message
i work for a small ISP and we use ModusMail for the mail server, and it also does spam filtering. Very very good, and i'm not biased.
see www.vircom.com for more info on it
if you do like it and want to buy, reference www.vance.net! ;)
they'll even give you a free trial if i'm not mistaken
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taropatch
Average Member

USA
741 Posts

Posted - 27 January 2004 :  12:23:59  Show Profile
SPAM is a serious problem. I am pretty much doing the same thing Richard except that my company is small. I scan through about 200-500 filtered emails every day.

My email is about 85% SPAM. It's ridiculous.

I'm using SPAM filters at the server and then POPFile locally to help me sort incoming email.
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redbrad0
Advanced Member

USA
3725 Posts

Posted - 29 January 2004 :  12:02:38  Show Profile  Visit redbrad0's Homepage  Send redbrad0 an AOL message
Yes it is getting way out of hand and I to hope someone can come up with something. It sucks to open your email every 5 - 10 mins just because you get another spam.

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