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Doug G
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 Posted - 11 December 2003 : 19:43:15
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Originally posted by Gremlin
http://paulbeard.no-ip.org/movabletype/archives/001131.html
Interesting little blog on the number of lines of code in XP and where some of that code dates back too.
That guy is a bit "factually challenged", which is pretty common among the spreaders of disinformation by MS haters who don't care about facts. NT included networking support from the ground up. When MS decided to create NT Novell was the target, and built in networking was necessary.
NT was created a couple years before the WWW was invented, but long after the Internet was invented.
Novell didn't come into being because MS overlooked networking, Novell pretty much invented PC networking, so MS had to play catch-up with NT, and they did pretty well.
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Gremlin
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Posted - 11 December 2003 : 19:47:55
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| I think the point he is making is that initially MS hadn't ever considered networking and indeed to provide it under anything earlier than 3.11 it did require 3rd party software iirc. NT's a whole nother ball game, MS had jumped onto the networking bandwagan by then and in fact thats exactly the market NT was built to target with them still assuming the "home" user with windows 3.x were unlikely to ever need much in the way of Network support. |
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Doug G
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Posted - 11 December 2003 : 19:49:28
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It was probably 1990 or 1991 when the first NT beta was released, not 1989. NT itself was released in 1993 after 4+ years of development.
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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 11 December 2003 : 20:12:56
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| I seem to remember we'd only just started really using 3.51 mainstream when we got invited to the NT4 Beta, I think probably around 1991-1992 was when I first got my hands on a copy of NT4 |
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HuwR
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Posted - 11 December 2003 : 20:16:38
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I think I still have my msdn beta cd's around somewhere, will dig them out see if they are dated  |
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Gremlin
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Posted - 11 December 2003 : 20:47:26
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| Earliest I can find is an August 1996 MSDN Copy of NT4 (not beta obviously) I think that was probably the year it went RTM. |
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Nathan
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Posted - 12 December 2003 : 00:41:18
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Originally posted by RebelTech
Would it be fair to say that, even though the operating system and interface are merged, XP is the just GUI for a modified, beefed up ms-dos?
Yes and no. XP is a gui, but not for MS-DOS. XP is a gui for the NT operating system which is not dos.
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No slam intended here. The old Mac OS (pre ten) was an operating system thats only interface was graphical. No command line. Since Mac OS X (ten)
The Mac OS is really just a GUI for a Unix core. I am trying to grasp how this compares to Windows XP.
There is a command line in NT, it just isn't nearly as useful as most *nix type command lines.
Longhorn (NT6) will have a newly revived command shell that will use structured data as compaired to the text used by most unix shells. |
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Doug G
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Posted - 12 December 2003 : 01:21:35
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I went to exactly where I knew my old NT beta cd's were. Of course they weren't there and after 1/2 hr digging through old junk, I give up for now
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 December 2003 : 05:07:08
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Yes and no. XP is a gui, but not for MS-DOS. XP is a gui for the NT operating system which is not dos.
No, XP is not a GUI, XP is XP, explorer is the GUI not xp itself.
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There is a command line in NT, it just isn't nearly as useful as most *nix type command lines.
As was stated earlier, the cmd in NT is not a command line, it is a cmd shell which is an entirely different thing to a cmd line. |
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