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WebWizard
Starting Member

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 10 November 2003 :  14:33:48  Show Profile  Visit WebWizard's Homepage
Hello All,
Kudos to the guys who are doing such a terrific job with Snitz 2000 forums. I have several suggestions to make for the upcoming version that would greatly improve it's look and ease of integration.

(1) The top (header) should be split into two files; one containing the header and one specifically for the logo. The one for the logo would be better left empty for the individual webmaster to manipulate as he see's fit. Perhaps it could be included as a file in the header somewhere at the top BEFORE the link.
Where the logo currently is located could be used for the forum links while the login/logoff buttons would replace the location where the forum links are now. Would look neat.

(2) An option should be given if password encryption is needed or not, and not just assumed.

(3) Very important, the all tables in the forum should be relative NOT fixed. The topmost table which resides in the current header could be fixed or relative depending on the users' preference but all other tables ought to be relative to this table.

(4) This is a long shot but if possible, could we find a way to integrate the members' table seamlessly with other applications we might have on our websites. I have been especially frustrated trying to get around this problem. I want to include a classifieds, personals, postcard and literary club into my website but with each application having its' own database and unique ID's for members; my members would have to register to use EACH of these applications. Could we develop a way for these applications (especially Snitz) to share a common database or table. Perhaps we could manipulate the variables ourselves and point to the members' database or table from the config.asp file.
I'm not sure if I am making any sense or not but I'll be happy to explain if you want.

(5) Finally, I'll be very happy to be involved in actualising this in the next version if you wish.



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John Chukwuemeka Aghadiuno
Georgia Institute Of Technology


Without dignity there is no freedom, without justice there is no dignity and without independence there are no free men - Patrice Emery Lumumba

Edited by - WebWizard on 10 November 2003 14:39:42

HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 10 November 2003 :  14:40:10  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
2) This facility was added after very lengthy discussion here, it is unlikely to be made optional, there is absolutely no valid reason why they should not be encrypted
3) I'm pretty sure most of them are, are you referring to a particular table ?

4) It is pretty easy to make all these other things use the snitz members database, have you tried looking for mods, since they exist for all the things you mention
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dayve
Forum Moderator

USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 10 November 2003 :  14:51:51  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
Lack of Security Conscious People Rant:

I'm very concerned about the lack of understanding why encryption should always be used. Makes me think twice now before registering at a lot of web sites. Security should always be the #1 concern when developing a product, especially one that is on the internet. The ONLY valid reason I can think of it when people are trying to integrate a Snitz Forum with other member based web sites, HOWEVER, I would then say incorporate encryption on your pre-existing site using the SHA256 include file that comes with Snitz. It is very easy to use and extremely beneficial.

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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 10 November 2003 :  14:55:26  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
Try my Site Integration MOD as part of a solution for #1


Snitz 'Speedball' : Site Integration Mod : Friendly Registration Mod
"In war, the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won"

Edited by - D3mon on 10 November 2003 14:57:39
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WebWizard
Starting Member

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 10 November 2003 :  15:08:44  Show Profile  Visit WebWizard's Homepage
Wow, that was quick! Thanks for your replies.

(1) Yes, there is really no need for that. Just a thought because I know a lot of people who as a rule do not like major changes. They usually have no reason for this, they just don’t. I should know because I work with a lot of this type. They might, erroneously, think that it gives them less control over the forum. There are people who still use Netscape 4.0 just for the simple reason that they are reluctant to change. So always giving people options for new changes is always very good practice. You’ll build and preserve more loyalty that way. Just my two-cents…


(2) Just suggesting because some people might want to fit the forum into a table as small as 500 pixels and use the remaining space for other content.

For example, On one of my websites: www.nigeriannation.com , the contents are generally split into three columns, with the center column containing content pertinent to the page while the left and right columns contain links and teasers, etc. Fitting the forum into that space has proven impossible even with only two columns like this page: www.nigeriannation.com/Quiz/quiz.asp . Snitz is currently built under the assumption that it would take up the whole page. Just another suggestion from a design point of view.

(4) I try not to use Mods as much as possible BUT would rather wait until Snitz incorporates the Mods or features into the forum. I especially like the fact that the forums can be displayed by all browser types (both old and new); most Mods do not support these. Perhaps, I’m mistaken.



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John Chukwuemeka Aghadiuno
Georgia Institute Of Technology


Without dignity there is no freedom, without justice there is no dignity and without independence there are no free men - Patrice Emery Lumumba

Edited by - WebWizard on 10 November 2003 15:21:17
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 10 November 2003 :  16:38:34  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:

(4) I try not to use Mods as much as possible BUT would rather wait until Snitz incorporates the Mods or features into the forum. I especially like the fact that the forums can be displayed by all browser types (both old and new); most Mods do not support these. Perhaps, I’m mistaken


that is why most of them are mods, it is not always possible to accomplish the same thing across all browsers. Snitz therefore remains as a basic forum so that as many people can benefit from it as possible. It is not meant as an all singing all dancing solution to your every need.

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WebWizard
Starting Member

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 10 November 2003 :  16:55:32  Show Profile  Visit WebWizard's Homepage
This is where I got my idea from. I was playing with this forum last week and liked the way it fitted into my template: http://www.nigeriannation.com/Forum1/

But I am reluctant to use any other forum except Snitz because I have been using it since it's first release and really like it, plus I'm positive that it is still the best out there.

Perhaps we could address the table widths and other integration issues in future releases.



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John Chukwuemeka Aghadiuno
Georgia Institute Of Technology


Without dignity there is no freedom, without justice there is no dignity and without independence there are no free men - Patrice Emery Lumumba

Edited by - WebWizard on 10 November 2003 19:53:11
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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 12 November 2003 :  10:52:42  Show Profile
What you could do to get some of the width back is moving items in the tables around. For example, show the number of topics and replies below the title of the forum (or topic). There are people who have done this already, although it will require some work...

To get the forums to display at a set width, just edit the table tags in inc_header.asp and almost everything will display at the set width. Then you need to edit post.asp to remove some of the codes to change the sizes of the text area when someone makes a post.
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