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Bravestar
Starting Member

13 Posts

Posted - 06 October 2003 :  20:22:41  Show Profile
Hi there,

Iīm already a Snitz-User, so I donīt need to be tought how good Snitz could work (if itīs tweaked, of course...*g*)

I just have some things, I canīt achieve with Snitz, and Iīd like to know if we, together, have a chance to change these things:


1. I definately need a Hack for giving my moderators some features of the acp

2. I canīt believe, that the official dev-team is not interested in having a Forum-Software that supports serveral languages. So - letīs make a multilingual-Snitz-Version WITHOUT any DHMTL-code. Coudnīt be that hard - Iīve gone through this (translating Snitz) more than just one time...

3. I canīt believe, that Snitz is the best ASP-Forum-Software there is but has no Skin-Support. Letīs tweak that!

4. Oh my oh my: I need a hack for behaving Forums like categories, so that following structure could be achieved:
-- 1. Main Forum
-- 1.1 Subforum of 1.
-- 1.2 Subforum of 1.
-- 1.3 Category
-- 1.3.1 Subforum of 1.3
-- 1.3.2 Subforum of 1.3
-- 1.3.2 Subforum of 1.3
-- 1.4 Subforum of 1.
...


This is just thew beginning of my very serious plan to achieve a better Snitz. I donīt need to have a .NET-Version, if I would have to wait a year to get one (or finish one on my own), but I need a Snitz that is at least as good as vBulletin or WBB.

And:
Did anybody converted a vBulletin or WBB into Snitz? Any hints for that kind of project? Any converters? Anything already done?


Greetz & thx for all answers

Bravestar
Starting Member

13 Posts

Posted - 06 October 2003 :  20:40:43  Show Profile
Next thing I just forgot to mention:

It is so ugly to change lines in code when setup a mod. The only reason why we have to use "code-changes" in existing files is the use of blanks in asp-code.
I think: There is no need (absolutly NO need) to achieve a nice view of the code in the outputted html-code. What we need is a simple asp-code (if we have to do it without .NET) - so no need for nice looking html-code but:

There is a need for simple asp-coding without blanks in each line, so weīre able to use FileSystemObject to setup mods (or change parameters).

Am I wrong? Please tell me!
Greetz
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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2003 :  05:39:00  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
My Low Bandwidth forums will give you the skinning (CSS based - seem my own forums) feature and what I think you are referring to as 'no blanks in the ASP code'.
I think there is also another MOD that allows sub forums - point (4)


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Edited by - D3mon on 07 October 2003 05:41:26
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Bravestar
Starting Member

13 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2003 :  16:20:13  Show Profile
Hmm - thanks, but a real skin includes the buttons/grafics, or am I wrong?

With blanks in ASP-Code I tried to describe the following:
When we have a line like this
"                <LI><span class=""spnMessageText""><a href=""admin_config_datetime.asp"">Server Date/Time Configuration</a></span></LI>" & vbNewLine & _

which is about line 130 in admin_home.asp
I have no chance to use the FileScriptingObject to add a line in there, cause parsing the blanks is not achievable (or I donīt know how), and so no complete-Setup-Routine for a mod can be provided cause the people installing my mod would have to add a line themselfes....
This is bad design from my point of view. Why donßt we just delete every blank at the beginning of a line and insert description-tags in there, like (code from above changed in my way of coding):
[135|Link to Server Date/Time Configuration]
<LI><span class=""spnMessageText""><a href=""admin_config_datetime.asp"">Server Date/Time Configuration</a></span></LI>" & vbNewLine & _


And please donīt tell me how many lines of code this will be in the end. How about deleting all repeating lines in that code - I just mention the "All Forums"-Line, which you can find in more than 25 Files (and itīs just an example).

But I really need some help with merging a Woltlab Burning Board to Snitz. Anybody has a experiences doing that?

I like the Snitz-Forum very much, but I want a grown up one.

Greetz

P.S.:
Iīm sorry, but my englisch is not grown up, too :)
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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2003 :  16:55:21  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
The LB forums have all the blanks removed as you describe.

Also, they are 'skinable', its just that there aren't any graphical skins available - maybe you can design one yourself?

I'm not sure how the ASP parser will interpret this part of the code:
[135|Link to Server Date/Time Configuration]
or indeed what affect it will have on the overall parsing performance of the code. It is an interesting idea though. Is this method used on many other forum systems?


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"In war, the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won"
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2003 :  18:28:16  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:

I'm not sure how the ASP parser will interpret this part of the code:
[135|Link to Server Date/Time Configuration]
or indeed what affect it will have on the overall parsing performance of the code. It is an interesting idea though. Is this method used on many other forum systems?


this has been discussed many many many times, and been rejected every time for the same reason. The Snitz forums are designed to be run by many people who have their forums hosted by lots of different hosts, a fairly high percentage of these forums can not use the filescriptingobject.
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work mule
Senior Member

USA
1358 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2003 :  18:51:42  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR
The Snitz forums are designed to be run by many people who have their forums hosted by lots of different hosts, a fairly high percentage of these forums can not use the filescriptingobject.



It's like the project requirements / mission statement.

This is what many people fail to realize or understand.

I know there are things I'm sure many people would like to see changed, I have to give the developers credit for staying true to the above. Some may criticize and demand that Snitz take advantage of new technology. However because Snitz has stayed focused, many people have the option of using Snitz on a basic inexpensive windows hosting plan.
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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 08 October 2003 :  04:18:41  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
Ah, I was unaware that FileScriptingObject was limited on some hosts.


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"In war, the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won"
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