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zinpin
Junior Member

Australia
202 Posts

Posted - 02 October 2003 :  05:04:47  Show Profile
Can I divert port 80 (http)traffic to port 443(https)?
I have tried but my browser always comes up with page not found.
Ive done a google search but can't find an answer
is there a solution to this or am i going round in circles. :(
TIA

Edited by - zinpin on 02 October 2003 05:15:41

HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  06:24:09  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
firstly, why do you want to do that, what are you trying to accomplish ?

if you have a secure site set up correctly all traffic should automatically get sent through the https port.
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zinpin
Junior Member

Australia
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  07:24:03  Show Profile
thanks Huwr, im doing this more as an experiment than anything else. im not trying to setup a secure site, i don't have any certificates installed, just to learn how the port thing works and if it can be done.
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  07:30:56  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
it is possible to remap ports, but for ssl if the pages are set as secure the translation to https should be transparent to the user.
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zinpin
Junior Member

Australia
202 Posts

Posted - 02 October 2003 :  08:00:25  Show Profile
great, I guess the part that im interested in is the remapping ports. I assume then that the content will appear the same as if someone accessed the page via http. If that idea is right, how would I go about remapping port 80 to port 443 Huwr?
Oh, I should say at this point that Im using win2k.
Just to clarify... I have default.asp in the wwwroot folder. My test was to somehow get https://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/ to display the default.asp page.

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HuwR
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  08:10:13  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
I am still not sure what you are trying to accomplish, but the use of https means you MUST have a secure site set up, you can not divert https requests to a non secure one.
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davemaxwell
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USA
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  08:19:03  Show Profile  Visit davemaxwell's Homepage  Send davemaxwell an AOL message  Send davemaxwell an ICQ Message  Send davemaxwell a Yahoo! Message
As soon as you set the secure site up, it will show the same page as if you've got the non-secure site set up. If you're getting a page not found under https, then you've got a problem with the certificate and will probably have to get another one.

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  08:22:57  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
You could just install a self signed cert as well for playing around without having to spend any dollars on a "real" certificate.

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sr_erick
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USA
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  08:42:03  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
Also I have found www.instantssl.com to work very well and they are very reasonably priced if you just want to go that route.




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zinpin
Junior Member

Australia
202 Posts

Posted - 02 October 2003 :  08:52:17  Show Profile
its clear to me now that I'm in way over my head. what i was trying to do is setup a little webserver, so that i don't have to be limited by the 10mgs of space my isp is giving me. The reason why i wanted to divert port 80 to 443 is because my isp has blocked port 80 but has 443 open. So i thought if it can be done easily, I could keep my site up, and have some of its pages linking back to my local machine.
Nevertheless thank you all for your help.
just out of curiosity though, how do you go about setting up a small webserver for one. I'm not interested in hosting but just for my stuff and a couple of friends.
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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  09:01:44  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Instead of using https://www.example.com have you tried http://www.example.com:443 that should tell the browser not to use SSL to connect, but still use port 443, not sure if it will work as I haven't tested, but worth a try.

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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  09:29:56  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Gremlin

Instead of using https://www.example.com have you tried http://www.example.com:443 that should tell the browser not to use SSL to connect, but still use port 443, not sure if it will work as I haven't tested, but worth a try.



I assume that what zinpin wants is, if users type http://www.example.com it will be sent to http://www.example.com:443
which would require some form of http/port tunneling
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sr_erick
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  10:46:35  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
But how would you do that Huw? Domain forwarding? How can you forward a domain, and still have it set up for that site? How could you use a port tunneler if the host blocks port 80? You would need th change the port before you get to the actual server. I think in either case you would need to have 2 seperate domain names or just use the ip address after the domain forward or port tunneling.




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Podge
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Ireland
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  10:58:57  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
I doubt that your ISP has blocked ALL ports so you could use something like http://www.domain.com:8080
Here is a list of all used and unused ports - http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers

Using one of the free redirection services (you're registrar may have one) to redirect to http://www.domain.com:8080
should work.

You can also promote you site and add it to search engines using the port number (:8080)
Here are some indexed by Google.

http://www.google.ie/search?q=%3A8080&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta=

If you use port 443 you will have to use a cert which is unsigned and will cause
security warnings not to mention a noticable speed difference.


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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  11:34:01  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
You would use Port Forwarding/Tunneling as Huw said, do you have a firewall or router in your setup at home ? most of these allow you to forward packets from one port to another port on your network.

quote:
If you use port 443 you will have
It should work ok like I posted above, becuase the browser won't actually try to connect using SSL if you don't put HTTPS in the URL ... at least I'm fairly confident that should work, it's not something I've ever had the need or desire to try/test

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Edited by - Gremlin on 02 October 2003 11:35:49
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 October 2003 :  17:04:31  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by sr_erick

But how would you do that Huw? Domain forwarding? How can you forward a domain, and still have it set up for that site? How could you use a port tunneler if the host blocks port 80? You would need th change the port before you get to the actual server. I think in either case you would need to have 2 seperate domain names or just use the ip address after the domain forward or port tunneling.



It is fairly simple using an application called Octagate. You point your domain at the octagate server, then using the server you can translate the ports to be transparent to the user. as an example.

the website http://www.dipex.org if you ping this address you will get an ip of 81.3.74.32 (my octagate server), but the actual website is running on http://81.3.74.41:8080
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