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dayve
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 Posted - 16 September 2003 : 00:57:40
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I have been running MDaemon Pro Email Server for over a year now and recently I decided to take advantage of the multiple domains feature it has. The way it works is there is a configuration for Primary Domain and then a configuration for Secondary Domains. I created a Secondary Domain and User Account. To test this I configured my email client with the proper settings and sending email works just fine. However, when I check my email, it prompts me for a password. I know the password I entered in the account settings was right, but I try again, and again and again and it keeps challenging me. I then decided to try using a fully qualified email address something like this:
dayve@mydomain.com
Oddly enough this works and I am fine with having to do that but my primary domain does not require that I enter the domain name in my client settings. Anyone have an idea as to why any additional domains that I add to the mail server requires the fully qualified domain name for my username? |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
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Posted - 16 September 2003 : 01:06:50
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| Could it be becuase you already have a dayve account created on the primary domain and it needs some way to distinguish between which account you actually want to log on with ? |
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Jeepaholic
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USA
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Posted - 16 September 2003 : 01:21:06
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| I've been running MDaemon since 2000 (v3.x) If you don't put the full email address in as your account ID, it doesn't know which secondary domain to authenticate against, so it defaults to the primary domain. The email address you put into your account settings isn't transmitted for authentication purposes. Only the ID and Password... |
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Edited by - Jeepaholic on 16 September 2003 01:22:08 |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 16 September 2003 : 01:21:16
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Originally posted by Gremlin
Could it be becuase you already have a dayve account created on the primary domain and it needs some way to distinguish between which account you actually want to log on with ?
I had already thought of that, so I tried a different account name and it did the same thing. Gremlin, are you running an Email Server for your Web Hosting or are you a reseller? |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 16 September 2003 : 01:24:04
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Originally posted by Jeepaholic
I've been running MDaemon since 2000 (v3.x) If you don't put the full email address in as your account ID, how would it know which secondary domain to look up? If there isn't a domain attached, it will default to the primary. The email address you put into your account settings aren't transmitted for authentication purposes. Only the ID and Password...
then what would be the purpose of the server name in the client settings? the fully qualified domain name is what tells the mail server which accounts to look at. |
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Jeepaholic
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Posted - 16 September 2003 : 01:29:28
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| Are you talking POP3 and SMTP server names? Those could be very different from the actual email address being used. For simplicity as say an ISP, you might have everyone point to POP3.westcoast.whatever.com and SMTP.australia.whatever.com to work for numerous domains... |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 16 September 2003 : 01:33:19
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yes, the POP3/SMTP protocols are what communicates with the mail server.
mail.virtualnetdesigns.com
User: dharris
mail.burningsoulsforum.com
User: dayve
I should not have to authenticate to virtualnetdesigns.com using dharris@virtualnetdesigns as the user name, I should simply be able to use dharris because my server settings in my email client tell which domain to search through. |
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Jeepaholic
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 16 September 2003 : 01:41:26
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mail.virtualnetdesigns.com will resolve to an IP by the DNS protocol...which your mail client will use to connect via SMTP or POP3 protocols. I don't believe the domain is transmitted, since an IP has been resolved, although I'm no expert.
As another argument (if I'm wrong above), what if you have sub-domain emails? For example:
dayve@mail.burningsoulsforum.com
What happens then? You're expecting the mail server to automatically remove the "mail." which would not work for everyone all the time...and, in fact might cause issues for many. |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 16 September 2003 : 01:45:40
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actually dayve@mail.burningsoulsforum.com would work. I've set up multiple domains on a Novell GroupWise Server and did not have this issue which is why I asked the question because I expected MDaemon to work the same way.
The domain does make a difference though, regardless if they are pointing to the same ip address or server because I would not be able to access virtualnetdesign.com accounts using a burningsoulsforum.com server setting in my client settings, so the domain is passed. How else would you prevent things like relay traffic and such?
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 16 September 2003 : 01:58:15
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| Kiwihosting mailservers are all Unix hosted Qmail servers dayve. |
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Jeepaholic
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 16 September 2003 : 02:11:13
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I think MDaemon is going for maximum flexibility in system configuration. I know, for a fact, that I can log in using different SMTP/POP3 servers (as long as they point to my mail server's IP) with an account that uses a different domain. If you WANT to set it up this way, MDaemon allows you to do so. You won't be bottlenecked by any of it's built-in rules...
There are plenty of ways to prevent relay traffic, the first of which is to require valid authentication to send email. Or, require a POP before an SMTP. Yada... Regardless, I really just think they're trying to accomodate everyone.
I will say, as a plug, that I can't recall every having an issue with this mail server since April of 2000. I'm running over 100 accounts. I probably shouldn't have said that!  <knock><knock> I will eventually upgrade to the latest version. Rock solid program. |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 16 September 2003 : 10:25:23
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I'm pretty in tune with how to use the advanced features of a mail server, I was just curious as to why MDaemon was "different" with handling multiple domains. HOWEVER, my question is really kind of pointless because none of my subscribers POP their email, they use the World Client Web Access module which does not require them to use full domain, just their username, but that is because the web address is their domain ( http://www.burningsoulsforum.com:3000 or http://www.virtualnetdesigns.com:3000 ) I've been running the version 6.x Pro Edition just as an FYI and yes, it is pretty rock solid with lots of nice features.
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 16 September 2003 : 10:42:38
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Gremlin, What is Unix?
It's one of them really really old command line thingy wotsits opertaing systems |
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