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D3mon
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  13:11:52  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
It was the current download of Snitz right from the front page. No mods/fixes added before I started. I'll hopefully get up a test site in an hour+.


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D3mon
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  14:16:10  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
Ok, here's the test site:

http://www.windnkite.com/forums/

You can login using:
username: tester
password: tester

...or create your own test account to test the process.
This is the very latst beta version (unreleased as yet) with both CSS and bandwidth optimisation.
It should act exactly like the original Snitz download in every respect.


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Edited by - D3mon on 16 June 2003 14:20:33
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pweighill
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  15:04:33  Show Profile
In inc_header.aps there is a chunk of Javascript code. Perhaps you could make this a separate file so the browsers can cache this data.
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D3mon
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  15:21:48  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
actually, thats not a bad idea . Wonder what happens with non-javascript browsers though, will they just ignore it?


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Aaron S.
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USA
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  15:24:53  Show Profile  Visit Aaron S.'s Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by D3mon

Yup, thats the 'core' strategy of the reduction in size, that and the removal of hundreds of font tags etc. I've employed it on all the code in the forum, so it should represent significant bandwidth savings in the mid to long term.



You might be able to reduce it even more by getting rid of the "completely response.write" strategy.

Lots of &_ that could go away!

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D3mon
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  15:41:41  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
I could, but it wouldn't affect the code sent out to the browser.


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VodkaFish
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  16:06:54  Show Profile  Send VodkaFish an AOL message  Send VodkaFish an ICQ Message  Send VodkaFish a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by D3mon

actually, thats not a bad idea . Wonder what happens with non-javascript browsers though, will they just ignore it?
I wouldn't worry about that since you used the import method of getting the stylesheet. Every browser that accepts that accepts js, it's just whether or not the user has disabled it, in which case they won't read it either way. I say go for the separate file

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D3mon
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  16:10:01  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
I've implemented it on the test site, works well.


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D3mon
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  17:25:42  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
I've noticed while working on the files that function jumpTo(s) appears to be repeated in several places (same code). Does anyone know whether this is intentional? Thinking of moving it into one of the larger .js files...


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laser
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Australia
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  17:37:23  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron S.


You might be able to reduce it even more by getting rid of the "completely response.write" strategy.

Lots of &_ that could go away!


Actually that's a very bad idea (goes against all the 3.4 theory of doing things), and the "& _" never gets sent to the browser anyway.
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VodkaFish
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  18:50:35  Show Profile  Send VodkaFish an AOL message  Send VodkaFish an ICQ Message  Send VodkaFish a Yahoo! Message
You might want to add that security update just released if you haven't already. Very good job so far.

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D3mon
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  18:54:40  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
Actually, I though about adding all the security fixes, but I can't decide either way...


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VodkaFish
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Posted - 16 June 2003 :  20:30:29  Show Profile  Send VodkaFish an AOL message  Send VodkaFish an ICQ Message  Send VodkaFish a Yahoo! Message
I would add the security fixes to the package. While other mods are partial adds or edits, you're handing out the full thing, I think it would be the "responsible" thing to do. While you don't have to make all the little bug fixes that there have been, it would be nice if people could run this "out of the box". You know a few will download this and not even think there there are code changes to make and then be left with a vulnerable forum. You and I may think "read up!", but you know some won't. I would just include a readme.txt (or another common name since there's one already) and document any change from the base that you have made (just a note with the bug fix name and perhaps the topic link). If you want help, just let me know.

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 17 June 2003 :  05:18:58  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
I've got a test running here that I just setup quickly, seems pretty good so far. topic.asp seems to have a tag missing somewhere though as it throws out one of my tables :( having the code all run together like that does make it a little harder to find !

If you look at the bottom of this page here you'll see what I mean its thrown some of the graphics right out

http://staging.kiwihosting.net.nz/support/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22

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D3mon
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 June 2003 :  06:04:13  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
Oh yes I see. I removed the tables which created the table borders and I've probably missed the closing tags which are closing the table again too early...


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