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zao
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Posted - 03 February 2004 :  20:07:56  Show Profile
cool didn't want to download a copy then modifiy it to have to do it again in a few weeks. and nice work trying to get it xhtml complient. i try to have the rest of my site all xhtml complient except a few things.. yea the skin selector is nice. i might change it to work with the profile once i tie my site into the forum better.

Main Site - http://cavesoft.no-ip.com - My Forum - http://cavesoft.no-ip.com/forum
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zao
Starting Member

11 Posts

Posted - 04 February 2004 :  17:02:08  Show Profile
hey D3mon is the hearder and footer going to stay the same from beta 2 to the final.. i want to start workingon updating my site but don't want to do it again when the finished version comes out..

thanks for your time.

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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 04 February 2004 :  18:04:16  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
probably not. But don't worry, Speedball II will most likely be fully released in 24 hours anyway.


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zao
Starting Member

11 Posts

Posted - 04 February 2004 :  21:43:57  Show Profile
cool

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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 05 February 2004 :  16:16:47  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
Speedball II is now available! See first post in this thread for the download.


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zeth
Junior Member

United Kingdom
117 Posts

Posted - 05 February 2004 :  19:28:04  Show Profile  Visit zeth's Homepage
Well Done that man!

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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 06 February 2004 :  16:23:34  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
Just uploaded the new MOD conversion guide


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sr_erick
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USA
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Posted - 07 February 2004 :  14:36:29  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
What are the opproximate file size differences in the outputed html? How much CSS does speedball use?




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zeth
Junior Member

United Kingdom
117 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  14:55:29  Show Profile  Visit zeth's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by sr_erick

What are the opproximate file size differences in the outputed html? How much CSS does speedball use?



Speedball uses CSS for all formatting and a conservative estimate would be 20% smaller though it can be much more.

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zao
Starting Member

11 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2004 :  23:40:02  Show Profile
i am not sure if this makes the final output smaller or not but i am converting the forum to a table less forum using div tags and css. you can check it out in my sig.. i am still working on it as i go, so there may be bugs in the layout. if your using IE the menu will be a little high but its ok in firebird.. if you know what that haappens let me know..

anyway nice work D3mon without all your work this would take me alot longer

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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 08 February 2004 :  05:34:06  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by zeth

quote:
Originally posted by sr_erick

What are the opproximate file size differences in the outputed html? How much CSS does speedball use?



Speedball uses CSS for all formatting and a conservative estimate would be 20% smaller though it can be much more.


http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/snitz/speedball/demo - using Speedball II (default)
http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/snitz/speedball/compare - using 3.4.04 (default)
Both using same DB:

default.asp
20.79K (v3.4.04)
12.27K (Speedball2)
47% saving

forum.asp
65.71 KB (v3.4.04)
40.32 KB (Speedball2)
39% saving

topic.asp
94.9 KB (v3.4.04)
63.47 KB (Speedball2)
33% saving

active.asp
100.53 KB (v3.4.04)
57.35 KB (Speedball2)
43% saving

Overall, approx 40% saving in bandwidth usage with Speedball II


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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 08 February 2004 :  05:35:27  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by zao

i am not sure if this makes the final output smaller or not but i am converting the forum to a table less forum using div tags and css. you can check it out in my sig.. i am still working on it as i go, so there may be bugs in the layout. if your using IE the menu will be a little high but its ok in firebird.. if you know what that haappens let me know..

anyway nice work D3mon without all your work this would take me alot longer



I'm not a big fan of CSS-P, but I'll follow your work with interest.


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puresilk
Starting Member

United Kingdom
4 Posts

Posted - 08 February 2004 :  07:59:00  Show Profile
D3mon

I've been reading the development of Speedball II, but have just downloaded the latest version on Snitz. Obviously the savings you have highlighted would be a great advantage. Should I not install the latest version but use Speedball II version instead? Will the other Mods work with Speedball II or will there have to be some kind of conversion like OneWayMule is doing for his mods?

Its a great idea by the way!

"If I have seen farther, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."
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zeth
Junior Member

United Kingdom
117 Posts

Posted - 08 February 2004 :  08:23:11  Show Profile  Visit zeth's Homepage
Speedball II is based on the latest version of Snitz (3.4.04) and should be used instead of Speedball I, and I personally prefer it to the normal Snitz.

MODs have to be converted but it is quite an easy process and you should be able to do it yourself. However, over the next two weeks hopefully many of the most used MODS will be ready for Speedball so I can use them myself.

What MODS did you have in mind? D3mon is already doing Avatar and I am already doing Private messages and the state/county MOD.

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zeth
Junior Member

United Kingdom
117 Posts

Posted - 08 February 2004 :  08:27:42  Show Profile  Visit zeth's Homepage
OneWayMule might convert the following

Custom Policy, F.A.Q. Administration, Forum Rules, Links Manager (when its finished).

I will also need the Content Mod so if no-one else does it then I will convert that too.

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