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betheball
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USA
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Posted - 03 December 2002 :  17:33:46  Show Profile
What is the difference between simple NT authentication and NT autologin? Is it that with NT authentication you become logged in when you visit the forum and with autologin you are logged into the forum as soon as you log onto NT?

- Duane

"So I got that going for me, which is nice." - Carl Spackler

ASPDude
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United Kingdom
41 Posts

Posted - 04 December 2002 :  13:27:03  Show Profile  Visit ASPDude's Homepage
Simple NT authentication as you put it (if your looking at the Admin Section, Main Feature Configuration) simply tells the forum what type authentication to use...database against NT.

If you set NT as your authentication and do not set NT Autologin then you will need to login into the Forum whenever you use it. Your users will also need to register with the forum initially.

Autologin gets around this but registering the user automatically and then taking them back to your front page. Whenever they come back to your forum they are already logged in so no need to keep typing password, etc.

Hope this helps.
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betheball
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USA
41 Posts

Posted - 04 December 2002 :  14:53:33  Show Profile
If this is correct then my forum isn't working correctly. I turned on NT authentication, but not autologin and it logs in me and my users automatically as soon as we open any page within the forum. Moreover, the LOGIN and LOGOUT buttons don't even appear on the page. What I would like to do is have the users logged in automatically as soon as they log in to their NT domain and logged out when they log off. Is such a thing possible?

- Duane

"So I got that going for me, which is nice." - Carl Spackler
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ASPDude
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Posted - 05 December 2002 :  03:34:17  Show Profile  Visit ASPDude's Homepage
With NT Authentication you don't get the Login/Logout buttons. So that is working fine.

Not sure about logging users in directly and loggin them out automatically.

I have an Intranet site and have Autologin enabled. When a user comes along for the first time the forum detects this and registers them automatically for me. They are then taken back to a portal home page which they can configure for their own use. When they leave the forum I do not believe any connection are cut (to my knowledge).

When they return to the forum an entry is posted into their members record to let me know they have returned and on what date/time. When they log off their NT account then they have no way of getting into the forum unless they log back into the Domain.

Not entirely sure why you need them to login and logout automatically though...could you elaborate?
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betheball
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USA
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Posted - 05 December 2002 :  09:19:31  Show Profile
I am trying to use the Forum for dual purposes. First, as a forum, of course, but also as a way to keep track of who is here and who is not. I have the Active Users Mod and if I had people logged in automatically when they logged on to NT I would know who is in the building. This is primarily for weekends so in case of emergency we would know more or less who to alert. I understand that there are some server tools within NT that may accomplish what I need, but I am not an NT administrator and am not sure I can gain access to all I may need. I am just trying to reduce the amount of involvement the user has to have so as to prevent human error. If they have to logon, many will forget. If they have to also logoff, many others will also forget. So, if I could automate the logon, the logoff, or both with their NT logon, that would be great!

- Duane

"So I got that going for me, which is nice." - Carl Spackler
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DJWillis
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 December 2002 :  10:42:28  Show Profile  Send DJWillis an ICQ Message
What your are asking is almost impossable due to the 'stateless' nature of web pages. You need some process to run to 'check' the user status.

There are however lot's of server tools that can do a 'logged in user' search and output the details to a text file that you could then style using ASP and show on a web page. I do this for lot's of NT bits and bobs and combined with ADSI leads to some very powerfull web pages.

Regards

John Willis

"You can have any error screen, as long a it's blue"
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betheball
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USA
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Posted - 27 December 2002 :  19:29:15  Show Profile
Do you have any working examples?

- Duane

"So I got that going for me, which is nice." - Carl Spackler
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DJWillis
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Posted - 09 January 2003 :  07:21:03  Show Profile  Send DJWillis an ICQ Message
quote:
Originally posted by betheball

Do you have any working examples?



Hmmm, about 9,000 lines of VB, ASP and C# . I'll see if I can dig out an example bit using ASP, VB6 and ADSI.

Regards

John Willis

"You can have any error screen, as long a it's blue"
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