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David K
Junior Member
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 Posted - 23 November 2002 : 13:30:39
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I'm not a law expert, but I do understand the English used in law documents.
The thing is, that I don't quite understand the copyright issues involving Snitz.
I'm making a translation of Snitz(Hardcoded translation of ver 3.4.03) and I would like to add copyright notices for me.
What can I add?
what can I change?
I added a "tranlated by.." link on the bottom (on the opposite side of the "Powered by" logo, but I would like to add something that is visible in the source code and in the page source.
Can I add things to the copyright value in the header?
Can I auto add things to the copyright varriable?
Please don't answer unless you are sure about the answer, I don't want to annoy anyone in the dev team.
Thank you,
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator
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David K
Junior Member
494 Posts |
Posted - 23 November 2002 : 16:58:55
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| does it mean I can add to it, or only add under\above it? |
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
3545 Posts |
Posted - 23 November 2002 : 18:13:31
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Simply put... you can't modify the existing copyright in any way. Meaning you can't charge for it in any way, and you must not move or modify the existing "Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000" stuff.
My suggestion if you want to add something to the code similar to the Snitz Forums 2000 stuff in code... do it this way:
<%
'#################################################################################
'## Copyright (C) 2000-02 Michael Anderson, Pierre Gorissen,
'## Huw Reddick and Richard Kinser
'##
'## This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
'## modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
'## as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
'## of the License, or any later version.
'##
'## All copyright notices regarding Snitz Forums 2000
'## must remain intact in the scripts and in the outputted HTML
'## The "powered by" text/logo with a link back to
'## http://forum.snitz.com in the footer of the pages MUST
'## remain visible when the pages are viewed on the internet or intranet.
'##
'## This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
'## but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
'## MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
'## GNU General Public License for more details.
'##
'## You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
'## along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
'## Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.
'##
'## Support can be obtained from support forums at:
'## http://forum.snitz.com
'##
'## Correspondence and Marketing Questions can be sent to:
'## forum@snitz.com
'##
'#################################################################################
'#################################################################################
'##
'## All translations to [the new language] done by David Kohen.
'## Any questions or correspondence reguarding translations
'## should be directed to David Kohen at: david_k@myaddress.com
'##
'#################################################################################
%>
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Posted - 23 November 2002 : 18:48:51
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Also there is the copyright input box in admin section to write about your copyrights. It is also included into the copyright meta-tag.
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 23 November 2002 : 21:43:26
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correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I saw a topic where it was stated that a person could charge for the installation and/or modification of code as long as the copyright message stayed in tact? I have not personally done this but now I am just a tad bit confused....
*off to the search engine I go....* |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 23 November 2002 : 21:59:18
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| Well I think last time I had that explained to me, you can charge for an installation but as per GPL you must provide full disclosure of all the source code as well. |
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
3545 Posts |
Posted - 24 November 2002 : 02:41:46
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| yup... you don't charge a penny for the code... but you can charge for labor and hosting etc... |
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David K
Junior Member
494 Posts |
Posted - 24 November 2002 : 07:02:47
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| what about making a costum made website (without a forum) but using code parts? |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 24 November 2002 : 07:28:36
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| Derivitives based wholely or in part I think still need to carry the copyright info, I get lost somewhere around that part of GPL licenses though. |
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
3545 Posts |
Posted - 24 November 2002 : 11:19:51
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| Basicaly, if you use any code (even one function) from Snitz Forums 2000, you need to place the "Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000" graphic/link/text in the footer of each page using it. |
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GauravBhabu
Advanced Member
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Posted - 24 November 2002 : 12:51:15
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| So if a function or code suggested by a person gets implemented in the snitz code, does that mean next time he/she uses that code/function in his application he/she has to carry the "Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000" graphic/link/text in the footer of each page using that function/code? |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 24 November 2002 : 13:39:32
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quote:
Originally posted by GauravBhabu
So if a function or code suggested by a person gets implemented in the snitz code, does that mean next time he/she uses that code/function in his application he/she has to carry the "Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000" graphic/link/text in the footer of each page using that function/code?
If anything, it should be the other way around, I guess. As I don't think a couple suggestions merits a reference to that author's suggestions in the copyright, the fact that someone is using code that you suggested certainly should not mean that, all of a sudden, you need to insert a copyright notice in your own code. If you suggested something, you're the author (unless you're suggesting the exact same thing you saw elsewhere). If you're the author, I don't think anyone else could, in good faith, force you to use it's own copyright notice for something you did.
Just MHO, of course. |
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
3545 Posts |
Posted - 24 November 2002 : 19:28:07
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quote:
Originally posted by GauravBhabu
So if a function or code suggested by a person gets implemented in the snitz code, does that mean next time he/she uses that code/function in his application he/she has to carry the "Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000" graphic/link/text in the footer of each page using that function/code?
If you are the author, and your using the function independently of the forum code, and you are using the one you wrote and implimented and not the one that is included in the forum code (which invariably gets moddified to some extent, and is donated to the forum project by the author) then you don't need any recognition. there, it's yours. If your using any function that has been extracted from the forum code though, or if your using an include from the forum files then you must include the "Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000" Graphic/link/text in your pages. |
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Posted - 24 November 2002 : 22:24:27
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When you design a Snitz driven website, like a portal like thing, except simple pages that are used around, you are used connected to to Snitz DB, the config.asp, the data structure behind it, the string formatting/forum code etc. This is virtually everything.
This is what I do whenever I do such a site: I create a site footer, copy the "untouchables" from forum's inc_footer.asp to that footer and live with it  .
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Radianation
Junior Member
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 05 July 2004 : 23:08:26
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Old topic, but I have a similar question.
I've been using Snitz for a long time and have no problem giving credit for snitz because it rules hands down. However, I've modified my code quite a bit and use parts of it (like the inc_header.asp) on several pages at once for consistency that are not forum related. All of my pages have meta tags and copyright information for Snitz. How much can I modify this?
Specifically - I want to move the Snitz copyright from the right hand side to the MIDDLE of my footer and change the text so it reads like this:
Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.03
and the whole string is a link to snitz website, but the link is a darker grey on black so that you can read it, but it doesn't stand out as much as a standard link on the page. (ie. people who want to see what engine we're using can easily find it, otherwise it doesn't get in the way). Is something like this acceptable? I'll gladly work with you to make it acceptable, but I'm trying to streamline the code. I'll even happily place a page on our site explaining the components we use and how to get them. In no way shape or form do I want to discredit Snitz!! |
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