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VodkaFish
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USA
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Posted - 11 November 2002 :  16:34:06  Show Profile  Send VodkaFish an AOL message  Send VodkaFish an ICQ Message  Send VodkaFish a Yahoo! Message
Gremlin - I'm a big fan of the keyboard and really love the mouse.

As for Natural keyboards, I find nothing natural about them Thing is: I never "learned" how to type. I was a little kid playing with an 8088 and just started pecking away. Inevitably, I just flow now, and probably do many of the same things one "should", but those keyboards really seem to slow me down.

I use a little gel thing to help my wrists. It's not too mushy, and seems to provide just enough comfort. Every once in a while my wrists kill, but I think it's from either way too many hours, or sometimes it's provoked from a bad move at the gym.

I do sometimes move my keyboard around, and it is nice to have it be wireless. Less wires the better, and that's for everything. As for fears of security, I have none as I only use these things in my house, not an office or apartment building.

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Reinsnitz
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USA
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Posted - 11 November 2002 :  16:46:04  Show Profile  Visit Reinsnitz's Homepage  Send Reinsnitz an AOL message  Send Reinsnitz an ICQ Message  Send Reinsnitz a Yahoo! Message
just takes someone driving up on the street with a reciever... just sit there and record. (not to bring any paranoya to the conversation) hehe

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VodkaFish
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Posted - 11 November 2002 :  18:31:22  Show Profile  Send VodkaFish an AOL message  Send VodkaFish an ICQ Message  Send VodkaFish a Yahoo! Message
Yeah, I saw them doing it with a Pringles can on the news I'm not too worried. I never type things in like SS#'s, etc. anyway.

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 11 November 2002 :  19:54:59  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by reinsnitz

just takes someone driving up on the street with a reciever... just sit there and record. (not to bring any paranoya to the conversation) hehe


Not quite that simple, with the Logitech ones you just switch on the Encyption feature :)

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seahorse
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USA
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Posted - 11 November 2002 :  21:18:08  Show Profile  Visit seahorse's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Gremlin

quote:
Originally posted by reinsnitz

just takes someone driving up on the street with a reciever... just sit there and record. (not to bring any paranoya to the conversation) hehe


Not quite that simple, with the Logitech ones you just switch on the Encyption feature :)



You could be using an HP wireless keyboard. In which case, you wouldn't even need the pringles can receiver. It would automatically show up on your neighbor's PC if they were using the same HP keyboard.

Read all about it at The Register.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/27971.html

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Edited by - seahorse on 12 November 2002 04:08:40
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pdrg
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 November 2002 :  05:35:40  Show Profile  Send pdrg a Yahoo! Message
Thanks seahorse that's the link I was trying to remember!

(if the reg is still gown when you try this link there's a cached copy on google -
http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:RprV2my13o4J:theregister.co.uk/content/54/27971.html+/content/54/27971.html&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
hope this helps)

Edited by - pdrg on 12 November 2002 05:38:56
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seahorse
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USA
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Posted - 12 November 2002 :  20:43:53  Show Profile  Visit seahorse's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by pdrg

Thanks seahorse that's the link I was trying to remember!



Can you imagine what could happen if multip people in your neighborhood used the same HP wireless keyboards?

User 1 types in an email:
Hi Mom! Things are going great here!

User 2 types in an email to a friend:
... I got my nose pierced at this woderful place in town....

User 3 types in an email to Dad:
...I just lost my job last week. Please send money to...

User 4 types his bank account information into Microsoft Money:
Bank of London - Account number:0000000000

User 5's email self populates with information from his neighbors and looks like this:

Hi Mom! Things are going great here! I got my nose pierced at this woderful place in town. I just lost my job last week. Please send money to Bank of London - Account number:0000000000





Ken
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pdrg
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 November 2002 :  05:23:35  Show Profile  Send pdrg a Yahoo! Message
Or you could just leave your cursor in a copy of notepad and have yourself a fully-effective wireless keystroke logger harvesting every credit-card transaction, every password, web searches etc. Completely non-invasive and non-detectable. Dangerous! So I personally will be steering well clear of wireless keybs!

Wireless mice, however, should cause no security breaches, but may annoy your co-workers as you shift their cursor around their screen for them !
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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 13 November 2002 :  05:55:24  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
afaik the HP problem is a real exception to the rule, most employ some form of Secure mode (though may not be enabled by default)

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Azaniah
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United Kingdom
1004 Posts

Posted - 13 November 2002 :  08:47:25  Show Profile  Visit Azaniah's Homepage
My neighbours are such ludites that it's not really a problem. lol

Plus are they really that interested in what I'm telling my sidekick to do in Neverwinters Night?

Eagles fly!, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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Reinsnitz
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USA
3545 Posts

Posted - 13 November 2002 :  12:34:23  Show Profile  Visit Reinsnitz's Homepage  Send Reinsnitz an AOL message  Send Reinsnitz an ICQ Message  Send Reinsnitz a Yahoo! Message
hehe :) what a world :)

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