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dayve
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USA
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Posted - 06 November 2002 :  13:51:42  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
okay, I'm being lazy but it is because I just found time to install it last night. I switched from Cable service to DSL (that's another story) and it is quite different from the setup that I had with Cable. My problem is that Cable was truly "always on" whereas the DSL service I am using is PPPoE which means I "log on" to the dsl service to obtain my IP. The problem I am faced with is that when I log out of Windows 2000 Server, I lose my DSL connection which means I lose my web site, ftp site, terminal services, etc. Is there a service or daemon that should be running to prevent this from happening? Can I use my router to "trick" the PPPoE into thinking I am still logged on? I am going to research this further but if there is a quick solution to this I would greatly appreciate it. TIA.


Bookie
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Posted - 06 November 2002 :  16:23:13  Show Profile  Visit Bookie's Homepage  Send Bookie an AOL message  Send Bookie a Yahoo! Message
I had DSL for about a year and a half that used the PPPoE software. It worked just like you said yours works... loggin in almost like a dial-up connection. I cancelled it because I bought a house and I needed the $50 each month for the house. I just got DSL again a few months ago (work is paying for half of it ) and they sent me a different type of modem. They sent me a DSL modem/router instead of the modem they gave me before. The new one I got connects itself and obtains the IP address from the company. My computer is always on the Internet because the modem connects to the Internet and my computer connects to the modem/router. It's an Efficient Speedstream 5667.

Then I found out that it was a fluke that I got that modem (which I like a lot better than the first). This is the one they usually send out to businesses and the one that requires the software is the one they send to home users. I got the 5667 modem/router because they ran out of the other one. Lucky me.

So, if you can get your hands on the one I mentioned above, you'd be all set. The church I go to has DSL through the same company and we talked the DSL company into swapping for the 5667 modem/router and they charged us only for the shipping charge. The problem with the PPPoE software was that they could only have 4 people connected at the same time. We have five full-time pastors, three secretaries, and a couple other support staff positions so it was a pain to only be able to have four connections. Now they're all set.

So, in short, my recommendation would be to contact the DSL company and see if they have a modem/router that doesn't use the software they can let you use.

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Bookie
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Posted - 06 November 2002 :  16:34:45  Show Profile  Visit Bookie's Homepage  Send Bookie an AOL message  Send Bookie a Yahoo! Message
Hm. I read your post again and realized you already have a router. When I log into my dsl modem/router there is a connection screen where I put in my username and password. That gets burned into the memory and it uses it whenever it needs to. Is there any such feature in your router?

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06 November 2002 :  17:54:48  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
I'll ask a silly question, why do you need to log out of the W2K box ? couldn't you just lock the screen ?

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RichardKinser
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Posted - 06 November 2002 :  19:21:14  Show Profile
Instead of running the PPPoE software on your computer, you could get a device such as the Linksys BEFSR41 that supports PPPoE in the router. That way it's just your router that is logging in, and everything else beyond the router can be left as it was when you had cable.
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@tomic
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Posted - 06 November 2002 :  20:18:52  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
quote:
Instead of running the PPPoE software on your computer, you could get a device such as the Linksys BEFSR41 that supports PPPoE in the router. That way it's just your router that is logging in, and everything else beyond the router can be left as it was when you had cable.


I have a Cisco 678 which is a router/modem and it works this way. It was more expensive but it works great.

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dayve
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USA
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Posted - 06 November 2002 :  21:42:38  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by RichardKinser

Instead of running the PPPoE software on your computer, you could get a device such as the Linksys BEFSR41 that supports PPPoE in the router. That way it's just your router that is logging in, and everything else beyond the router can be left as it was when you had cable.



my router supports PPPoE configuration which I just set up and think will work, going to finish testing now since I just got home from work.

Gremlin, I thought about locking the workstation and have had to do things like that in the past with server that refuse to run services, but since this is running from home, I want my wife to still have access to this computer as well. I also just want to do things "the right way". Linksys had explicit directions just for SBC/Yahoo DSL and like I said earlier, appears to work so far.

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dayve
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Posted - 06 November 2002 :  21:47:54  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
just tested my router config and PPPoE settings and was able to log off my main Win2K station and still have my services running so all is well back in "Dayve Land" ...

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Gremlin
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Posted - 06 November 2002 :  22:00:16  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Great :)

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alex042
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Posted - 07 November 2002 :  09:18:46  Show Profile  Send alex042 an AOL message  Send alex042 a Yahoo! Message
I use a Linksys router with my Efficient Networks Speedstream modem on a PPPoe DSL line and I can shut all my computers off, reboot them and still maintain the same IP #. Just set the PPPoe setting in the Linksys router to maintain an active connection. The biggest problem I've had is re-establishing the connection if it ever does get lost. I usually have to retype in the name/password to get it to reconnect since the connect button doesn't seem to work very well without resetting this.

Edited by - alex042 on 07 November 2002 10:02:56
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dayve
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USA
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Posted - 07 November 2002 :  13:22:22  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by alex042

I use a Linksys router with my Efficient Networks Speedstream modem on a PPPoe DSL line and I can shut all my computers off, reboot them and still maintain the same IP #. Just set the PPPoe setting in the Linksys router to maintain an active connection. The biggest problem I've had is re-establishing the connection if it ever does get lost. I usually have to retype in the name/password to get it to reconnect since the connect button doesn't seem to work very well without resetting this.




the issue has already been resolved. I am having zero problems. my router keeps me connected via PPPoE.

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