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David K
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Posted - 07 November 2002 :  19:24:17  Show Profile  Send David K an AOL message  Send David K an ICQ Message  Send David K a Yahoo! Message
It's not the problem, it works but doesn't change anything, it's a db problem<
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David K
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Posted - 19 November 2002 :  08:14:29  Show Profile  Send David K an AOL message  Send David K an ICQ Message  Send David K a Yahoo! Message
Probably db driver! problem<
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David K
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Posted - 18 December 2002 :  12:46:57  Show Profile  Send David K an AOL message  Send David K an ICQ Message  Send David K a Yahoo! Message
OK, sorry for bumping this after a long time, but the problem expands!
I can't use a Hebrew codepage on a forgien computer (because Hebrew support is an optional component in Win 2K)
My host agrees to install it for me, but I want it to work on EVERY server around. Is there another option besides going Unicode?

BTW, it doesn't work properly when I use my own MSSQL2000 server as well<

Edited by - David K on 18 December 2002 12:49:32
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Posted - 18 December 2002 :  16:38:02  Show Profile
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I want it to work on EVERY server around


I don't think there is an option for that.

You can use Access 200x with newer Jet drivers and have Unicode.


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BTW, it doesn't work properly when I use my own MSSQL2000 server as well


What do you mean by "doesn't work properly"? Can you be more specific about the problem and server setup(s)?
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Posted - 18 December 2002 :  17:10:55  Show Profile  Send David K an AOL message  Send David K an ICQ Message  Send David K a Yahoo! Message
SQL server - my own server, supports Hebrew.
Web server - Kiwibloke.com (doesn't support Hebrew)
session.LCID - ccannot be changed to hebrew
error- ???? in DB and in site<
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Posted - 18 December 2002 :  20:01:17  Show Profile
Did you try the same setup with Access 2k database on web server and using correct HTML encoding setting (without session.LCID)?<

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Posted - 18 December 2002 :  21:37:02  Show Profile  Send David K an AOL message  Send David K an ICQ Message  Send David K a Yahoo! Message
yes, it works, but the DB has only accented characters. although the forum works properly, it's a major broblem for backups since I can't understand\edit the DB contents. so if I move the DB to a server that does support Heberw, I'll lose all my data!
BTW, it's always with correct HTML charset settings<
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Posted - 18 December 2002 :  22:36:17  Show Profile
I understand. This is the same problem I lived when I moved to Access 2000 from Access 97 (described on the link I posted above).

I never tried it, but perhaps it can be solved by a "global find replace" script, if you can identify the character sequences (i.e. numeric counterparts). VBS cannot work on UTF-8 data directly but there are methods to make them UTF-16 and work on these...

That will be a very important utility (if you want to give a try )...
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Posted - 18 December 2002 :  22:41:02  Show Profile
One more Q:

Is the utf-8 not a solution for you? I think every web server (w2k/XP) will support it. Also Access 2000, Access XP, MS-SQL 7, MS-SQL 2000 support them except some minor issues, mostly related to far-eastern languages.
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Posted - 19 December 2002 :  04:55:15  Show Profile  Send David K an AOL message  Send David K an ICQ Message  Send David K a Yahoo! Message
I don't want to use UTF-8 because of email, I believe it would represent a problem<
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Posted - 20 December 2002 :  17:55:57  Show Profile  Send David K an AOL message  Send David K an ICQ Message  Send David K a Yahoo! Message
so, does anyone have an idea on what to do?
BTW, if I use utf-8, could EVERYBODY visit the site?<
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Posted - 20 December 2002 :  18:16:23  Show Profile
Yes, but seahorse was mentioning about an issue where in some cases the browser does not select the encoding properly... I also saw that on some sites (like this one) where does not use an charset statement in the header. It must be because of the "auto-select" algorithm in the browser...

I think, you can use utf-8 for the website and another formatting for the e-mails. To accomplish this, you can just extract e-mail related text to another file and save it with enother encoding. Why don't you give a try to that?

Perhaps it will be a good idea to have e-mail related text in another file...
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Posted - 20 December 2002 :  18:41:01  Show Profile  Send David K an AOL message  Send David K an ICQ Message  Send David K a Yahoo! Message
it's too much changes to the base code, I want people to have a forum that is compatible with the original, yet gives the ultimate Hebrew support possible, and I think that I've reached it.<
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