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TestMagic
Senior Member

USA
1568 Posts

Posted - 15 October 2002 :  18:07:33  Show Profile  Visit TestMagic's Homepage
I just got a letter from register.com, whom I stopped using some time ago:

Dear ***:

Your domain names, including ****.com, shown below, will begin to expire on 3/**/2003. You must renew your names to retain exclusive rights to them on the Web.

Now is the time to transfer your names from your current registrar to Register.com...


If you're like me, you have a hundred things to do every day, and often scan mailings for relevant info. I've seen letters like this from Verisign, but this is the first one I've received from Register.com.

Arrggghh!!

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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 15 October 2002 :  20:52:53  Show Profile
Expect more of this.

I posted a question in another forum asking what happens if a registrar goes under. Does anyone know what would happen to domains registered by a registrar that subsequently closes and you can't communicate with them anymore?

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VodkaFish
Average Member

USA
654 Posts

Posted - 16 October 2002 :  01:02:43  Show Profile  Send VodkaFish an AOL message  Send VodkaFish an ICQ Message  Send VodkaFish a Yahoo! Message
I've received these quite a few times. They really annoy me. "Domain Registry of America" also sends me tons of junk e-mail trying to persuade/con me to switch.

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pdrg
Support Moderator

United Kingdom
2897 Posts

Posted - 16 October 2002 :  04:42:17  Show Profile  Send pdrg a Yahoo! Message
Cheap reg in GBP from UKReg.com, my mate likes it and I'm going to try them for my renewals coming up
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader

Australia
2084 Posts

Posted - 16 October 2002 :  05:40:08  Show Profile
I got this rubbish for a domain that is hosted on my server from verisign them selves, not...

From: "VeriSign Renewals" <Reminder.6653@info.nsi-direct.com>
To: <email removed>
Subject: Renewal Notice for <domain removed>
Message-Id: <55O5-HQEZ-BWTAW4-H@e-dialog.com>
X-Mail-From: 55O5-HQEZ-BWTAW4-H@bounce.e-dialog.com

NOTICE DATE: October 8, 2002

Dear VeriSign Customer,

As a courtesy to our customers, we are sending this notice to let you know that <domain removed> will expire on 02/25/03. Don't take a chance on having your domain name registration deactivated. Act now. Take advantage of our renewal offer and use our simple, express process to renew now.

Domain Name: <domain removed>
Reply Requested By: Oct. 15, 2002

RENEW NOW AND SAVE 28%*
- on a three-year domain name renewal -

Follow These Three Easy Steps to Renew Now:

1. Click here and review the domain name you would like to renew.

2. Select your renewal term. Remember, the more years you renew, the more you save.

3. Enter your payment information and confirm your renewal request.

If you have already renewed, please disregard this notice and accept our apologies for any inconvenience.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Savings based on three-year annual renewal cost. Pricing and multi-year discount does not apply to renewals of domain names registered in combination with other services for a single price.

Please do not reply to this message. For any VeriSign customer service inquiries, please click here. Any replies to this message will not receive a response.

If you would like to unsubscribe from certain e-mail promotions, click here. Please note, in accordance with our Privacy Policy, we will continue to send you notices and other important information affecting your account or services in order to fulfill our service obligations to you.

© 2002 VeriSign, Inc. All rights reserved. VeriSign reserves the right to change prices at any time without notice.


Notice the emails it came from and the server it was sent from, nothing to do with verisign.. But the expiry date is Feb 2003 but they wanted an answer by Oct 15.. They are in the SPAM list...

Not good business from verisign as far as I can see.

Cheers,

David Greening
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pdrg
Support Moderator

United Kingdom
2897 Posts

Posted - 16 October 2002 :  06:12:25  Show Profile  Send pdrg a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Please do not reply to this message. For any VeriSign customer service inquiries, please click here. Any replies to this message will not receive a response.

Where did the 'please click here' link actually link to? Is it really verisign, or some even greater shysters using their name directly?!

Edited by - pdrg on 16 October 2002 06:12:44
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bjlt
Senior Member

1144 Posts

Posted - 16 October 2002 :  07:38:13  Show Profile
It's hard to avoid this if you've ever registered a domain name. according to law whois info must be open and accurate, and some guys just sell the whois database, though I dont' know where they got it. I've got mails selling the whole whois db on CD. However, as a registrar or for verisign as the registry, it's quite easy for them to obtain such a database.

Another thing I don't understand why in the US law if an email message contains way to remove, it's not a junk. s**t, I bet if you ever try the removal your address will be moved to a verified addresses db and be sold for a better price.



Edited by - bjlt on 16 October 2002 07:39:36
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TestMagic
Senior Member

USA
1568 Posts

Posted - 22 November 2002 :  01:24:41  Show Profile  Visit TestMagic's Homepage
I just got this message in my email. Apparently DirectNIC sued Verisign for these practices and settled out of court:

--> directNIC Settles Lawsuit Against VeriSign <--

Intercosmos Media Group, Inc. settled a lawsuit against VeriSign, Inc., for its domain name marketing practices. The suit, which was dismissed by Intercosmos in the federal court in the Eastern District of Louisiana, alleged VerSign engaged in unfair trade practices and violated the ComputerFraud and Abuse Act. VeriSign sent deceptive domain expiration and renewal notices to customers of competing directNIC.com, the domain registration website of Intercosmos, via the U.S. mail and Internet email. Intercosmos asserted that because of the trickery, thousands of domain names were transferred to VeriSign, causing Intercosmos lost profits and public embarrassment, while customers of Intercosmos were fraudulently duped into leaving directNIC.com and paying higher prices to VeriSign. We are happy to put this behind us and we trust VeriSign will engage in fair competition from here on. We would also like to warn our customers to be careful with renewal notices sent from sources other than directNIC. Remember, the only way to renew your domain is to submit the renewal through your directNIC account at http://www.directnic.com.

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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 22 November 2002 :  07:44:37  Show Profile
Erin, Godaddy has sent all their other customers at least two emails to warn them for things like that. VeriSign has gotten a really bad name over the last year or two. I can remember getting two emails from Godaddy to warn about domain expiration notices sent by someone as if they're doing business with/for Godaddy, and one about .US domains where the registrants were asked to kindly send all kind of personal information to verify the ligitemately (sp?) of their .US domain registration.

It's not unheard off, but since I don't live in the US, I've never gotten any letters about any of these things. But, since Godaddy offers domain registration for $8.95 and lower, and those "thieves" sometimes charge up to $35, you can imagine a lot of people get PO-ed
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