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tin
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Posted - 13 October 2002 :  06:17:57  Show Profile
Dear all.
I am a new user. I have to use 3.3.03 in CHINESE Traditional. I try to use different language(Lang1033.asp ad Lang1028.asp).
The problems are can't see the CHINESE traditional language, and can't use a CHINESE login name.
Am I upgrade to 4 Beta 03 is better?
http://www.hkleagues.com/forum/default.asp
Please help to solve.
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Posted - 13 October 2002 :  08:32:15  Show Profile
You cannot use language packs with v3.3.03. v3.3.03 also has security problems. I'd suggest you to use v4b03.005 (link in my signature).
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tin
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Hong Kong
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Posted - 14 October 2002 :  01:53:30  Show Profile
Thank you for reply.
I follow your download and upload to my site now. It also look same. And when I go in the first page of the forum it show error
'80020009'
Exception occurred.

/forum/inc_functions.asp, line 1439
The problem still there.
Tell me more in the setting on all files need change in use different langauge please.<
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Posted - 14 October 2002 :  02:48:24  Show Profile
I looked at the site, it is not throwing an error...

1) When does it show the error?

2) What is your database brand/version?

3) What is on your inc_functions.asp line 1439?
I have
If cint(rsStatus("F_PRIVATEFORUMS")) <> 0 then

on this line in patch005 and it seems a bit irrelevant...
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tin
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Hong Kong
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Posted - 14 October 2002 :  13:55:22  Show Profile
Thank you for attention, bozden.
1)At noon, the error show on. Now is disappear.
2)I am in use Access 97 Sniitz Forums 2000 V3.3.03 Final.
3)In file inc_functions.asp line 1439 is same as you type.
You can select two language in there, can you see the CHINESE TRADITIONAL words can't show on?
I really don't know which problem I have, all CHINESE words change. I find that the cookies Snitz00Lang is 1028. Am I set wrong? And where can I set about the Quick Reply ?
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Posted - 14 October 2002 :  16:47:18  Show Profile
quote:

2)I am in use Access 97 Sniitz Forums 2000 V3.3.03 Final.


No, you are using v4b03.x (but I don't know if you applied the patch or not).

The problem must be Access '97. Access 97 does not support Unicode and you need it. Try to convert it to Access 200x and retry. I think it will go...

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You can select two language in there, can you see the CHINESE TRADITIONAL words can't show on?


I saw some chinese there (i.e. in the user interface) but I'm not capable to read Chinese and understand the change. If you are talking about posts, it must be because of using non-unicode database...


quote:

And where can I set about the Quick Reply ?


v4b03 is v3.3.05 compatible. That version didn't have Quick Reply... v4b04 will be based on v3.4.x...

Please make sure you read the info in my signature...
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tin
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Posted - 15 October 2002 :  03:02:21  Show Profile
Then how to convert the Access in there? Is that use Access 2002 can convert or thougth other way?
Cause at .mdb file I am in use Chinese Access version 2000. And I set in the config.asp is strConnString = "DRIVER={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)}; DBQ=" & Server.MapPath("/data/forum.mdb") '## MS Access 97 on Brinkster
Now I change to strConnString = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Data Source=" & Server.MapPath("/data/forum.mdb") '## MS Access 2000 using virtual
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tin
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Hong Kong
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Posted - 15 October 2002 :  05:38:42  Show Profile
I find some interest problems here. When I check at the top of the link back to my forum, I select the language to CHINESE, it show all normal and correct. But when I go in by my site www.hkleagues.com expert the user interface can show many CHINESE, other words are change. And I go in the forum by my site when the user is logout,
error '80020009'
Exception occurred.

/forum/inc_functions.asp, line 1439
is show on there. Then I check at the logo, I can go in the forum. But the CHINESE words still here. Where I set wrong??? Please teach and help me. Thanks a lot...<
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Posted - 15 October 2002 :  12:22:39  Show Profile
You need to use Access 2000 or Access 2002 database AND use a Access 2000 connection string of course. This is the problem with posted messages. MS Access 2000 & Access XP also can edit older database versions...

You can e-mail me your database and config.asp file for a check...
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Posted - 15 October 2002 :  15:46:00  Show Profile
I suspect that you will still have an encoding problem. This is because,
(1) You seem to be using V4b03.003 (with security fixes to 005?) with 1028 (Big 5) and 1033 (ISO 8859-1).
(2) Your web site is in Big-5.
(3) Your Access DB (97?) is a locale Chinese version Access (which I am not sure whether it complicating or making it easier...besides not being Access 2000 and above.)

Even with V4b03.005 with language packs,
1. you cannot have a Chinese locale language description in a language selector if 1033 is set to be a default.
2. you canot render Chinese properly when English_US is selected.
(I suspect the reasons that you are getting Forum topics appearing in Chinese for some chars is because you are using a locale Chinese version Access DB.... but seems not fully handling Chinese as your post indicates).
3. Your forum/topics will not properly show in Chinese (as you have problems in your current forums, which appear to have a problem in encoding conflict between your DB (Chinese Access DB) and browser/html encoding to render contents properly.


If your primary language enviornment is Chinese (Big 5) but allowing English as well, then, perhaps the best way is to set session.lcid to 1028, with Lang1028 codepage setting to be Big-5. This makes your forum default encoding to 1028 Traditional Chinese (Big 5), rather than 1033 English US. This also allows handling English (singlebyte charsets within Big-5 (I believe your locale keyboard/input method for Big-5 allows direct English inputs as well by shifting input method). I am not sure whether this will allow login id to be in Chinese but technically should be if DB updated to Access 2000 plus and your forum default is set to Big 5, and you really don't need a language selector if you do this.

Another way is to have your forum in unicode (UTF-8), but this is still a separate encoding scheme from your web site. So, this will enable your forum to handle Chinese, English, or any other languages in unicode (with all LANGNNNNN.asp files converted/saved in utf-8) but whenever you jump to/from your web site (Big 5) to/from Forum (unicode), you will have to set a browser encoding to an appropriate one, unless it does it with automatic detection.

Also, am not sure whether email components can handle Chinese properly, which you need to verify/check.

Assume that a next V4.x version will solve many of this type problems/issues.<

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tin
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Posted - 25 October 2002 :  06:43:56  Show Profile
Thanks for all help.
Just have a little problem here. In my site, it have the login.gif(Lang1028button_login.gif) and logout.gif(Lang1028button_logout.gif). But they can't show on. Please tell me where to check this problem.<
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Posted - 25 October 2002 :  06:59:55  Show Profile
Open inc_top.asp and check these lines (from v4b03.005):

Line 243

            <INPUT src=Lang<% =strLangLCID%>button_login.gif type="image" value="Login" id=submit1 name=submit1 border=0 hspace=4>


Line 318

            <INPUT src=Lang<% =strLangLCID%>button_logout.gif type="image" value="Logout" id=submit1 name=submit1 border=0 hspace=4> 


If they are like this, then there must be a problem with <% =strLangLCID%> calculation. Make sure that you have not deleted something from your config.asp and from inc_language.asp files. Compare them with the originals from the package...

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Posted - 25 October 2002 :  18:30:37  Show Profile

Some minor things that I noticed, so here it goes:

Nice site but also noticed that you are using Lang1028.asp, the earlier version, where some like in FA were not fully translated into Traditional Chinese. Also there are * remaining in text strings (of the targent language strings in the lang1028.asp..... all target lang strings were marked with * for translation where it should be removed.) You should get a newer version of 1028.

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