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KMC
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40 Posts

Posted - 08 October 2002 :  17:58:15  Show Profile
O.K., this is an odd one but here goes....

Is there a way to make it impossible for forum users to copy messages from the forum in order to paste them elsewhere???

Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
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Posted - 08 October 2002 :  18:09:28  Show Profile
not really (at least i think) even if you could do it through scripting, someone could save the webpage

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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
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Posted - 08 October 2002 :  18:12:29  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
You can certainly make it harder for people to copy, but not prevent it completely. All anyone has to do is find the page in their browser cache and open it up with notepad or an editor.

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Podge
Support Moderator

Ireland
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Posted - 08 October 2002 :  20:19:58  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
The only thing you could do is include a "no-right-click script". It will not make it impossible to select and copy, just make it harder.

It also has the added bonus of annoying your users no end.........

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VodkaFish
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USA
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Posted - 08 October 2002 :  22:47:19  Show Profile  Send VodkaFish an AOL message  Send VodkaFish an ICQ Message  Send VodkaFish a Yahoo! Message
There are scripts that convert text to graphics, but other then knowing and seeing a few, I have never used them. That would be what you're looking for, but you'd have to know what you're doing pretty well to implement it.

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KMC
Starting Member

40 Posts

Posted - 08 October 2002 :  23:13:29  Show Profile

Any idea where I could find a "no-right-click script" or the scripts that convert text to graphics??

Any idea how I would add them to the forum??

Thanks so much!!
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
6907 Posts

Posted - 08 October 2002 :  23:56:05  Show Profile
the no right click really won't work because the person can just highlight what they want and then Ctrl-V and Ctrl-P. i know nothing about converting text to graphics, but my guess is that if you are converting an entire topics text and all the replies, that it would cause slow load times.

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BWJM
Junior Member

Canada
193 Posts

Posted - 09 October 2002 :  00:20:50  Show Profile
Converting text to graphics: That is the entire premise of some of the "Project Dolphin" signature images that a few members of the Broken Machine team have made. We are harvesting statistics and data from a webpage in text form, massaging them as desired and then outputting them (with or without additional graphics) to PNG format. PNG is currently the most common format that we use however there are at least a dozen others including GIF and JPG. This code is available from us and will run on any .NET-enabled web server. Just check out this topic:
http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=35274

I agree with Nikkol that if you were to convert entire pages to graphical format on-the-fly, performance would be severly degraded on two fronts: a) Server performance. The web server must now do everything it used to do in addition to converting tons of KB of text to graphical format. For a small image such as the one in my sig, the script run time is as long as 3 seconds. b) Download time. Graphics are generally larger than any text which they may represent. Therefore, as an example, 100 KB of pure text or HTML would be downloaded much quicker by a user than would a 300 KB or larger graphic that would show the same information. For users on a dialup connection (like me!), this is a very serious consideration.

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vynsane
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Posted - 10 October 2002 :  02:38:23  Show Profile  Visit vynsane's Homepage
you can get around "no right click" by holding down Ctrl and right clicking. sure, it stops the non net-savvy from getting copyrighted material and such, but it's not too preventative in the case of some one that is slightly more advanced...

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Azaniah
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1004 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2002 :  05:39:06  Show Profile  Visit Azaniah's Homepage
A thought just struck me, which (like most my thoughts) won't be a good one.

But could you fool the browser into copying the wrong information? You highlight and copy "this" but what you actually paste is "that"?

I have no idea how that would work, but if preventing the actual right click or copy thing is a no no, then providing dummy data could be the answer maybe?

Cheers Az

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sy
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United Kingdom
638 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2002 :  06:26:32  Show Profile  Visit sy's Homepage  Send sy a Yahoo! Message
You could also consider getting a screen grab of the text and turn it into a GIF, seeing as how its likely to be 2 colour and you can make the bg transparent, the file size should be very low.

Can you copy and paste out of flash or shockwave movies and can you prevent the movies from caching on the clients machine?

Here is a no right click:



<!-- HTML Markup startspan -->
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
// No rightclick script.
var message="Change to your message for right clickers";
// Don\'t edit below!
function click(e) {
if (document.all) {
if (event.button == 2) {
alert(message);
return false;
}
}
if (document.layers) {
if (e.which == 3) {
alert(message);
return false;
}
}
}
if (document.layers) {
document.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);
}
document.onmousedown=click;
// -->
</script>
<!-- HTML Markup endspan -->



Is their a document.copy or document.viewsource we could use to do a similiar thing as above?

Bottom line as others have said is that determined people could still steal the code, maybe put a strong legal disclaimer in the no right click script.

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