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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
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 Posted - 18 September 2002 : 00:49:02
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I am getting a bit upset just like Huwr about users releasing new updates to our mods without letting us know.
Now I saw when a user KB released my poll mod for the 3.4. A lot of users have downloaded it and now have problems with the mod. They come here looking for support but get none, because KB is no longer around to offer support. So I have to be telling users, that the mod is not supported.
Now I have just noticed a second release of my poll mod by Methilnet for the 3.4 version, that I wasn't alerted of.
Users are getting frustrated that their is a bug with these versions and find no help to fix them. If you plan to release a mod, at least stick around to support.
You new mod authors are making the more experienced mod authors quit making mods, if you continue you like this. If it gets any worse I will just keep my new version of the poll mod to myself along with the rest of my mods.
If I continue to see no support for those 2 new poll mod versions, for the users, I will remove them from the Snitz Exchange. It is unfair to the users to install these mods that has bugs in them, and to give them no support. And it is unfair to me, as you give the poll mod a bad reputation as being a buggy and un-supported mod. |
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Posted - 18 September 2002 : 00:58:47
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
12217 Posts |
Posted - 18 September 2002 : 01:01:36
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| Yeah, he only made 3 posts since he joined. Doubt he will be around often, but could be wrong. |
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@tomic
Senior Member
USA
1790 Posts |
Posted - 18 September 2002 : 03:26:43
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I second or third that or whatever. I was worried the second I saw the Poll MOD appear with the same name as Davio's. My first thought was "Oh, oh...they will bug Davio for support" and sure enough. But that was an easy guess. There could be more than one Poll MOD, but at least change the name.
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 18 September 2002 : 04:47:04
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| IMHO, users who do use these Mods are also responsible for not getting any support. One of the things that's very important with mods is support. If someone picks a mod from an unknown user, who comes here not so often, they should know they are choosing the mod at their own risk. |
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Kat
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 September 2002 : 05:33:21
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| This is why I would rather not make mods. I did a couple of quickies about a year ago but other people were making similar stuff so I gave up. |
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Rasco
Advanced Member
Germany
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Posted - 18 September 2002 : 06:48:24
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| Maybe it`s also possible to delete these Mods from the common Mod places like the Snitz Exchange (ok, will be closed now) and SnitzBiz if the original author hasen`t approved it or add a message to the post with the announcement of the Mod, that the Mod isn`t "officially" supported. |
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MichaelA
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 18 September 2002 : 08:27:45
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Originally posted by Rasco
Maybe it`s also possible to delete these Mods from the common Mod places like the Snitz Exchange (ok, will be closed now) and SnitzBiz if the original author hasen`t approved it or add a message to the post with the announcement of the Mod, that the Mod isn`t "officially" supported.
I didn't realize this was such a problem. I am learning (only been here a couple of months.)
I'd like to see some kind of control over these MODs rather than have them go away. You are correct in that users will lose the benefit of experienced Snitz coders. That would be a disaster. And, true, good MODs get a bad rep and then may not be added to Snitz base code in the future.
I'd be willing to help with this if you'd like. Let me know if I can be of help. Moderator of a forum for "offical" code (I believe there is a forum but I don't know if it is moderator). Approve posts but not replies. Maintain a place for keeping the code and be sure it passes a processes before it is uploaded. (I know there are other places that hav uploads but I think they accept all code. Not sure about SnitzBiz which may be checking with original authors first.)
Again, whatever I can do to help, please let me know. I rely on these MODs and need the support so I can appreciate (and am experiencing) the frustration of unsupported MODs. While having complete control over something is never good, it beats the alternative in this case.
Snitz is too good to get into a situation like where it is heading.
Thanks to all offical MOD authors and developers for your contributions. (Waiting for that "offical" Poll MOD, Davio.  Had to throw that in.  )
Mike
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seven
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 18 September 2002 : 10:17:56
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If your poll mod was installed here I would vote to delete the imposter poll mods and sack the writers.  |
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Posted - 18 September 2002 : 10:32:06
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This is really unbelievable, such people are bombing the forums future  . |
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Aaron S.
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 18 September 2002 : 11:05:35
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I agree 110% with Davio on this one.
Everyone is in such a rush to get their 3.4 forums going that they are creating an environment for sub-par ports of MODs to exist.
The one thing that makes the actual MOD author stand out is their dedication to supporting the MOD and the addition of new features to the MOD (the desire to actually improve upon their original).
Compounded on this are statements made by forum members that since MODs are GPL, the author can be ignored and their MODs can be uploaded anywhere with or without the author's consent.
I'm not sure how to resolve this other than encourage members to get MODs from trusted sources (i.e. the author) and to avoid downloading quickly ported MODs just because you think you need it now.
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runnerblade
Starting Member
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Posted - 18 September 2002 : 11:51:06
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hi,
would it be possible to make an official mod list for the version 3 4 03. in purpose to avoid having mod from suspicious people, thank you.
Thanks to all offical MOD authors and developers for your contributions.
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BWJM
Junior Member
Canada
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Posted - 18 September 2002 : 12:12:10
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I too would support one official central mod place where all "official" or "supported" mods can be uploaded and downloaded.
The benefits of a central storehouse include:
- Only supported mods are available (supported by their reputable authors, not necessarily Snitz staff in general)
- Users only need to look in one place for the latest available version of any good mod. Less hunting around will lead to less sub-standard versions all over the place.
- Authors or potential authors can see what already exists so that they don't duplicate anything, again leading to less sub-standard versions.
I'm sure there are more reasons, but that's the best that 3 minutes can render. |
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seven
Senior Member
USA
1037 Posts |
Posted - 18 September 2002 : 12:47:20
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If SnitzBitz would only allow the owners of the MODs to uplaod, we would be set...
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Originally posted by runnerblade
hi,
would it be possible to make an official mod list for the version 3 4 03. in purpose to avoid having mod from suspicious people, thank you.
Thanks to all offical MOD authors and developers for your contributions.
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Etymon
Advanced Member
United States
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Posted - 18 September 2002 : 18:20:07
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Originally posted by bozden
This is really unbelievable, such people are bombing the forums future .
To boot, such poorly written and unsupported MODs may also cause server problems, and since the Snitz logo is all most host providers see on the forum, the Snitz forum name gets the blame for causing problems.
I suppose that much of the time, it's not the forum causing grief, but perhaps these types of MODs instead. On the ironic side, who would honestly know unless they really researched it? I imagine that most hosts don't have the time to dig through through and troubleshoot someone's forum code. It's just as easy to say that the forum as a whole is at fault, and to recommend yanking it from production ... replacing it with another product perhaps.
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sy
Average Member
United Kingdom
638 Posts |
Posted - 18 September 2002 : 19:28:49
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This whole issue appears to be unsolveable to everyones satisfaction, I did set out to make a longer statement, but i can't find it inside me to do so.
Stop supporting mods hacked up out of older code by someone else, this seems to be the best bet.
ETYMON - Just because i get run down by someone driving a ford, i blame ford? :)
Sy
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