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bax
Junior Member

141 Posts

Posted - 29 August 2002 :  04:14:46  Show Profile
One other thing that might be useful - at least for stuff we do, lawyers insist that we include some type of disclaimer saying people are responsible for their own posts, etc. It might be cool to include this as an option, similar to FAQ, or as part of the FAQ. We could come up with some type of disclaimer statement, then add one more config variable as to whether or not to include it. I would think lots of people within corporations or other non-profit organizations have a similar need.

Rasco
Advanced Member

Germany
3192 Posts

Posted - 29 August 2002 :  05:59:26  Show Profile  Send Rasco an ICQ Message
Isn`t that taken care off with the following statement, when you register:

"By pressing the "Agree" button, you agree that you, the user, are 13 years of age or over. You are fully responsible for any information or file supplied by this user. You also agree that you will not post any copyrighted material that is not owned by yourself or the owners of these forums. In your use of these forums, you agree that you will not post any information which is vulgar, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others privacy, sexually oriented, or violates any laws"

Or you can add something similar there.

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bax
Junior Member

141 Posts

Posted - 29 August 2002 :  19:00:53  Show Profile
Yes - but, the organizations we work with want that permanently available, not just when users sign up. I thought others might have that need, too.

Edited by - bax on 29 August 2002 19:01:15
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Rasco
Advanced Member

Germany
3192 Posts

Posted - 30 August 2002 :  06:45:51  Show Profile  Send Rasco an ICQ Message
I suggest, you simply add a new paragraph to the FAQs for these users, who need that with their forums.

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Kat
Advanced Member

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 30 August 2002 :  07:03:31  Show Profile  Visit Kat's Homepage
Or edit inc_footer.asp and add a small text table at the botton showing this info. Be careful not to change the copyright stuff though.

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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 31 August 2002 :  15:01:55  Show Profile
Why not just add a link, as Kat suggested, on the bottom of the pages to policy.asp or a copy of policy.asp that doesn't have the form tags (and buttons).
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bax
Junior Member

141 Posts

Posted - 13 September 2002 :  00:27:56  Show Profile
All these suggestions are great, and I appreciate them. But again, they then require me to modify my code, and each time I upgrade snitz, I have to go back in and do that. I guess what I was hoping was for something to be integrated into the Snitz config itself, as in.

If SnitzShowPolicyLink() then
<a href = "policylink">Review Forum Policy
end if

etc. etc. This way, I don't have to continually tweak each time I upgrade. Again, I just wanted to put it out there that policies of the forum might be something useful to more than just me on a permanent basis, rather than just on registration.
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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 13 September 2002 :  08:45:39  Show Profile
Of course you're right and I hope Richard or HuwR will look at this topic and give it some thought and perhaps add something like that in a future release. It's a small change that can be helpful to many people.
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sy
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United Kingdom
638 Posts

Posted - 13 September 2002 :  09:57:32  Show Profile  Visit sy's Homepage  Send sy a Yahoo! Message
Append to footer maybe:

All service marks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners. Comments are owned by the Poster. The Rest © $date $ForumName

The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails

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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 13 September 2002 :  10:00:17  Show Profile
"Comments are owned by the poster" is nice, but in some cases not true. In some cases all submitted materials become the property of the company. That goes for emails, so why not for posts on a forum?
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sy
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United Kingdom
638 Posts

Posted - 13 September 2002 :  10:01:56  Show Profile  Visit sy's Homepage  Send sy a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by bax

All these suggestions are great, and I appreciate them. But again, they then require me to modify my code, and each time I upgrade snitz, I have to go back in and do that. I guess what I was hoping was for something to be integrated into the Snitz config itself, as in.

If SnitzShowPolicyLink() then
<a href = "policylink">Review Forum Policy
end if

etc. etc. This way, I don't have to continually tweak each time I upgrade. Again, I just wanted to put it out there that policies of the forum might be something useful to more than just me on a permanent basis, rather than just on registration.




The footer probably wont change much from 3.402 now, use an include i.e, mydisclaimer.asp and you only ever need add one line of code to future releases.

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sy
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United Kingdom
638 Posts

Posted - 13 September 2002 :  10:07:59  Show Profile  Visit sy's Homepage  Send sy a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by FrutZle

"Comments are owned by the poster" is nice, but in some cases not true. In some cases all submitted materials become the property of the company. That goes for emails, so why not for posts on a forum?



The problems with applying any kind of 'boilerplate' legalese to a public forum are vast, different environments will require different things to be stated.

In the circumstances you mention (quite rightly), this would be better appearing in a contract of employment, not a web page disclaimer.

As a general rule of thumb, the 'comments owned by the poster' will suit a public access site and protect the site owner adequately.

IANAL

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Francodepaw
Junior Member

USA
111 Posts

Posted - 14 September 2002 :  10:14:57  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by bax

One other thing that might be useful - at least for stuff we do, lawyers insist that we include some type of disclaimer saying people are responsible for their own posts, etc. It might be cool to include this as an option, similar to FAQ, or as part of the FAQ. We could come up with some type of disclaimer statement, then add one more config variable as to whether or not to include it. I would think lots of people within corporations or other non-profit organizations have a similar need.



I posted a similar question in the General forum, but I was looking more for a template than to actually have it implemented into the forum itself. Everybody's legal department is different and I'm finding if they beleive they didn't have anything to do with it, then they won't like it. I rearrange the sample that a generous individual posted in topic http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=34397 passed it my my legal dept. then incorporated it into policy.asp and posted a sticky rules post with a watered down version of "This is what you agreed to."

I am putting the forum up on my corporate intranet (all grown ups right?) and legal still put me through the wringer. You'd think the Disclaimer/Policy would be simple.
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bax
Junior Member

141 Posts

Posted - 17 September 2002 :  21:51:18  Show Profile
Actually, my experience has taught me that the disclaimers and policies are the hardest part about the whole thing. Most of the time, the forum itself offers more features than needed, but the policy/disclaimer is all about having to be perfect.
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