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bobbart
Junior Member

USA
163 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  17:29:22  Show Profile  Send bobbart an ICQ Message
Ok so if I set the max PMs to 10 then you can only send 10 PMs? Or 10 at a time? Or does it limit the amount that you can have in your inbox?

Because as the Admin I would like to be able to do the send to all but if this is going to limit that then this is a problem.
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@tomic
Senior Member

USA
1790 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  17:38:28  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
It gets a count of the PM.ID column. You could send to all members even if you had 1000 but after that the Forward, Reply and New PM links disappear. I can easily alter this so that Admins are exempt.

So basically what the Max setting does is removes links it does not actually reject PMs after the Max. This didn't seem to be the best option to me. I thought making it inconvenient until deleting a few PMs would be enough and members can at least still receive PMs.

So even now with admin subject to the Max number you could send to all members then select all and delete and do it again and again and again.

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MrNik
Starting Member

Italy
49 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  18:12:28  Show Profile  Visit MrNik's Homepage  Send MrNik an ICQ Message
quote:
Originally posted by MrNik

ok hour seems to work all to duty. In order to add the pm also on the topic reply?



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@tomic
Senior Member

USA
1790 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  18:53:22  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
quote:
ok hour seems to work all to duty. In order to add the pm also on the topic reply


You mean you want to be able to send a PM from topic.asp?

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SportsBettingAcumen.com
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MrNik
Starting Member

Italy
49 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  19:15:06  Show Profile  Visit MrNik's Homepage  Send MrNik an ICQ Message
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@tomic
Senior Member

USA
1790 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  19:31:44  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
I shall be doing that but I have other plans tonight. There's a good chance I can get to it tomorrow.

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alex042
Average Member

USA
631 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  19:40:13  Show Profile  Send alex042 an AOL message  Send alex042 a Yahoo! Message
There may be a couple of minor bugs in the code:

admin_pmmaint.asp:
Around line 61, 'Err_Msg = Err_Msg & "<li>You Must have/enter a Private Message Limit</li>"'

pm_view:
Around line 118, 'If pmcount > 40 then'
The '40' should probably be dynamic based on StrPMLimit such as (StrPMLimit*.9).


Edited by - alex042 on 06 September 2002 19:41:47
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alex042
Average Member

USA
631 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  19:47:34  Show Profile  Send alex042 an AOL message  Send alex042 a Yahoo! Message
quote:
You could send to all members even if you had 1000 but after that the Forward, Reply and New PM links disappear. I can easily alter this so that Admins are exempt.


I'd consider restricting PMing of 'all' members to moderators and admins. Otherwise, you could end up with a 'junk' mail problem.

quote:
So basically what the Max setting does is removes links it does not actually reject PMs after the Max. This didn't seem to be the best option to me.


The max allowed should be the max number of messages in the inbox. Anyone sending a PM to someone with the max number of messages should receive a 'mailbox full' error. Admins and moderators may be excluded from these.



Edited by - alex042 on 06 September 2002 20:02:48
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@tomic
Senior Member

USA
1790 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  20:12:35  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
quote:
I'd consider restricting PMing of 'all' members to moderators and admins. Otherwise, you could end up with a 'junk' mail problem.


Isn't that how it is now? It should be. I would never want a member to be able to PM everyone.

quote:
The max allowed should be the max number of messages in the inbox. Anyone sending a PM to someone with the max number of messages should receive a 'mailbox full' error. Admins and moderators may be excluded from these.


I was never fond of this in email or PMs. Yes doing it this way is not ultra strict but it will limit PMs without making anyone miss a message.

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@tomic
Senior Member

USA
1790 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  20:15:58  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
quote:
admin_pmmaint.asp:
Around line 61, 'Err_Msg = Err_Msg & "<li>You Must have/enter a Private Message Limit</li>"'

pm_view:
Around line 118, 'If pmcount > 40 then'
The '40' should probably be dynamic based on StrPMLimit such as (StrPMLimit*.9).


You're right. The top one was correct until I had a default value but now it be one or the other but originally that is how I intended it to be worded. You don't think I speak English good?

The second one definately needs some adjustment and what you have there might just do the trick. I think that perhaps the way members are notified could be more aesthetic as well.

@tomic

SportsBettingAcumen.com
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Cliff
Average Member

United States
501 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  23:36:32  Show Profile  Visit Cliff's Homepage
@tomic,

Not sure how, but I got it working!!!

I have a question. When I set the preferences for the inbox display, it changes it for all users? Is this correct, or is it supposed to be individual for each user?

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alex042
Average Member

USA
631 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  23:54:28  Show Profile  Send alex042 an AOL message  Send alex042 a Yahoo! Message
quote:
I was never fond of this in email or PMs. Yes doing it this way is not ultra strict but it will limit PMs without making anyone miss a message.


You could set it up as an admin option to choose which method to use upon reaching maximum PMs whether it be: Restricting sending, but allow receiving or restricting receiving, but allowing sending or maybe restricting both if both count toward the limit. Each PM though takes up database space so you'll have to take that into account. This may not be a big deal unless the PM Saved MOD is added and people start saving their PMs. PMs saved this way would probably be skipped by an admin sweep to get rid of old messages, but should still count toward max messages.

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The second one definately needs some adjustment and what you have there might just do the trick. I think that perhaps the way members are notified could be more aesthetic as well.


I'd probably assign it to alert once it reaches somewhere between 75-90%. There are several ways to notify people. A simple line, like you have it, or popup alert is all that would be required. You can make it look pretty if you want.


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@tomic
Senior Member

USA
1790 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2002 :  04:06:58  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
quote:
You could set it up as an admin option to choose which method to use upon reaching maximum PMs whether it be: Restricting sending, but allow receiving or restricting receiving, but allowing sending or maybe restricting both if both count toward the limit. Each PM though takes up database space so you'll have to take that into account. This may not be a big deal unless the PM Saved MOD is added and people start saving their PMs. PMs saved this way would probably be skipped by an admin sweep to get rid of old messages, but should still count toward max messages.


I think the best way to combat this would be to just not install PM Saved. I don't intend to use it myself because I can think of so many other ways to preserve so text than to store it on your site. I can take a look at PM Saved if I ever get the code and can think about what can be done but I have never, ever seen or used this MOD. Even if I don't intend to use it myself I will still toss it in with the rest and try to add the functionality you requested because if you are going to save this stuff there has to be some kind of limit.

I suppose a way of admin just deleting saved PMs would be necessary.

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SportsBettingAcumen.com
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MrNik
Starting Member

Italy
49 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2002 :  06:40:55  Show Profile  Visit MrNik's Homepage  Send MrNik an ICQ Message
in order to put the private messages also on the topic it would not be enough to take the part of code from the profile of the customer and to put it in the topic.asp?
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alex042
Average Member

USA
631 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2002 :  10:12:41  Show Profile  Send alex042 an AOL message  Send alex042 a Yahoo! Message
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I can take a look at PM Saved if I ever get the code and can think about what can be done but I have never, ever seen or used this MOD.


quote:
quote:
Yes, but I don't have either of those features yet. I searched and couldn't find anything on PM Save.


I've zipped up PM Saved for you. Btw, Does this private message MOD contain the pager MOD functions?


This was from a previous response I had left a couple of pages back. You can download the MOD from that link.



Edited by - alex042 on 07 September 2002 10:16:07
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