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pweighill
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 19 August 2002 : 09:27:49
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| Just kidding, but seriously, if you are going to use v3.4 and apply lots to mods to it, might it be better to wait for first fix release? |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 August 2002 : 09:30:05
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I guess sinceyou have posted so many bug reports, that it was entirely a waste of time going live for a week.
why did you not report these before ? |
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pweighill
Junior Member
United Kingdom
453 Posts |
Posted - 19 August 2002 : 09:30:54
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Originally posted by HuwR
I guess sinceyou have posted so many bug reports, that it was entirely a waste of time going live for a week.
why did you not report these before ?
I didn't have access to the source code before! |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20584 Posts |
Posted - 19 August 2002 : 09:37:41
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| you don't need access to the source code to find the bugs you reported |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
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Posted - 19 August 2002 : 09:38:44
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pweighill,
Why don't cool it down just a little bit man? This is something people do on their free time, with the best of their will, and sincerely I don't think that all this pressure can do any good to anyone.
I'm sure that noone feels the need to remove these tiny pesky bugs more than the Dev Team. Now please give them some room to do it, will ya? |
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Aaron S.
Average Member
USA
985 Posts |
Posted - 19 August 2002 : 09:39:47
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Originally posted by HuwR
I guess sinceyou have posted so many bug reports, that it was entirely a waste of time going live for a week.
Considering the number of serious security bugs that were fixed, I'm shocked you would say this.
I am thankful to any of the Snitz volunteers that track down bugs... no matter when they find them. Anything to make the code more bulletproof is a positive in my mind.
--Aaron
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Aaron S.
Average Member
USA
985 Posts |
Posted - 19 August 2002 : 09:44:42
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Originally posted by ruirib
This is something people do on their free time, with the best of their will, and sincerely I don't think that all this pressure can do any good to anyone.
Exactly, Rui! So why does that give Huw the right to ask pweighill why he didn't report those bug sooner.
He asked a legit question, and according to Richard, there is a legit answer to his question (I'm just not sure if I can post that answer yet).
--Aaron
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Posted - 19 August 2002 : 09:56:09
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Will you all please calm down a bit  |
 Stop the WAR! |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 19 August 2002 : 09:56:21
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Aaron, let's not make an argument out of this. If you guys take a moment just to think how all this "bug rush" can be seen by these guys who worked on this for such a long time, with a highly remarkable result, in spite of these small issues, maybe you can understand that some frustration cannot be avoided.
I believe Huw's reaction is just an expression of that frustration. Hey, when you give so much of yourself, that must be understood, IMO.
We all need a bit of restraint here people. Things will be worked out, as soon as it is possible. |
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pweighill
Junior Member
United Kingdom
453 Posts |
Posted - 19 August 2002 : 10:02:00
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Originally posted by HuwR
you don't need access to the source code to find the bugs you reported
It helps to have the code, a database to look at the results and also be able to run it on your own machine to find the sort of bugs I'm posting about now.
I posted about quite a few minor/cosmetic bugs whilst the code was been tested on forum.snitz.com.
I'm now looking at the SQL code now that I have access to the ASP code and I'm finding a few more bugs that will need fixing. I'm also supplying the fix for most of these as well.
Most users won't be see anything out about these bugs in the bugs forum since I'm emailing Richard Kinser directly (due to the nature of these bugs) and just posting some comments on them to the bugs forum. These posts are still hidden at the moment. |
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Aaron S.
Average Member
USA
985 Posts |
Posted - 19 August 2002 : 10:05:05
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I am definitely not arguing with anybody. Everyone has done an excellent job with this release.
When the developers ran the code on their sites, they found some bugs... when it was released for us to use on this site, we found more... when everyone can install it, we found even more.
That is to be expected in any software release.
I am excited that we are squashing the bugs now, instead of finding them months down the road.
I am excited that Snitz is becoming more bullet-proof than ever.
No developer (working on any project) should take the existance of bugs personally... it is going to happen - no one writes perfect code.
Most developers don't have a QA organization consistenting of hundreds of users... this gives Snitz a great advantage in the market.
All I am saying is... if someone reports a bug, thank them. We sure are thankful of the Snitz team for delivering such a high quality product.
--Aaron
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pweighill
Junior Member
United Kingdom
453 Posts |
Posted - 19 August 2002 : 10:08:35
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Originally posted by ruirib
If you guys take a moment just to think how all this "bug rush" can be seen by these guys who worked on this for such a long time, with a highly remarkable result, in spite of these small issues, maybe you can understand that some frustration cannot be avoided.
I wasn't trying to be rude or pushy with the original post.
Yes v3.4 is a lot better than v3.3.
I just think that it would be wise to release another version in about a week or so with all the bugs that have been found after the inital release. |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
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Posted - 19 August 2002 : 10:12:09
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Aaron, agreed on most counts  . Anyway even when a bug is reported, patience is needed until we can have a new release, which Richard has already said he'll do today or tomorrow.
Given the fact that that was already posted by Richard, repeatedly asking about the time for the new release can only add to the existing pressure and, as I posted, that can do no good to anyone. |
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Aaron S.
Average Member
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Posted - 19 August 2002 : 10:18:42
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Originally posted by ruirib
Given the fact that that was already posted by Richard, repeatedly asking about the time for the new release can only add to the existing pressure and, as I posted, that can do no good to anyone.
Great! Richard and I discussed this over email, but I did not know he had made a general announcement yet.
--Aaron
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Posted - 19 August 2002 : 10:29:45
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Aaron, we talked about that on hidden forums a couple of hours ago.
A good working (not rapidly changing) v3.4 will also speed up the v4 project, but just be patient .
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pweighill
Junior Member
United Kingdom
453 Posts |
Posted - 19 August 2002 : 10:46:37
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| The main point to my original post was that if you re going to add lots of mods to a 3.4 forum, you should consider waiting a week rather than rush straight in otherwise you might have to do it all again. |
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