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Cindy2
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Posted - 20 May 2002 :  17:15:00  Show Profile
Are there any tips, suggestions and things to watch out for in setting up Forum in a web designed with FrontPage 2000 and using FrontPage extensions?
Thanks

Nikkol
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USA
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Posted - 20 May 2002 :  17:21:00  Show Profile
Just don't publish or edit the forum pages through FrontPage. Use Notepad to edit the asp files. If you have FTP access, use that to upload files. However, I've used FrontPage and simply dragged forum files into a subfolder without problems (that's not to say that you wouldn't have problems...just my experience).

Nikkol
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Hamlin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 May 2002 :  17:29:42  Show Profile
If you want to edit with something thats not just black and white you can try http://www.araneae.com/new.html

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Cindy2
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Posted - 20 May 2002 :  17:49:41  Show Profile
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Just don't publish or edit the forum pages through FrontPage. Use Notepad to edit the asp files. If you have FTP access, use that to upload files. However, I've used FrontPage and simply dragged forum files into a subfolder without problems (that's not to say that you wouldn't have problems...just my experience).

Nikkol



Thanks for reply.
Have heard that using FTP with FrontPage wrecks havock with the FP extensions. How did you avoid that problem?
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Nikkol
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USA
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Posted - 20 May 2002 :  17:53:04  Show Profile
I haven't had that problem. If you put your forum in a subfolder and don't put any other pages in it that would use FP extensions, then there shouldn't be a problem. Try it and cross your fingers!

Nikkol
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arizkatt
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Posted - 20 May 2002 :  17:58:28  Show Profile  Send arizkatt an ICQ Message  Send arizkatt a Yahoo! Message
I have been using WS_FTP (a free FTP program) with FrontPage forever and have never had the FP extentions have an issue. I did have that issue with other FTP programs. If you want to, you should be able to get a copy of it from tucows. Most versions that have LE on them work great and are free (or this was the case a week ago when I redownloaded it).

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Doug G
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USA
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Posted - 20 May 2002 :  19:08:46  Show Profile
FTP'ing pages to a Frontpage web is generally discouraged, and yes it's possible to screw up the Server Extensions.

Speaking for myself, I haven't had any problems using FP 2000 Publish between my local web and my ISP, but there have been reports of problems or corrupted pages from others.


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DreaMasteR
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Posted - 20 May 2002 :  19:37:22  Show Profile
Also - Microsoft released the fact that Front page is limited in its ability to work with sites that are over 300 megs in content - Things get a bit buggy after that - As the Corp Intranet I inherited was showing so many funny errors (It's about 3 gig in content).

FP2000 will still mess with ASP code as well. I only saw it happen once when it moved a semicolon down one line - to a novice - That ain't much, But it was enough to knock offline a Patch downloads for our site till I got in there with interdev and found the error.

WYSIWYG programs like Frontpage, or homesite are only scalable to a certain point, After that, you need to move to either coding in a good text editor - Or use an interdev or Ultradev solution.

Course with .Net on the way, all that's a thing of the past - Since the new engines will do a lot more in the background, and there will be a return to actual coding instead of using limited WYSIWYG products.

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Etymon
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United States
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Posted - 20 May 2002 :  19:56:46  Show Profile  Visit Etymon's Homepage
quote:

Are there any tips, suggestions and things to watch out for in setting up Forum in a web designed with FrontPage 2000 and using FrontPage extensions?
Thanks



There is an option something like "Preserve coding" (I'm at work. When I get home, I'll try to remember to look for it.

Etymon



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Etymon
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United States
2393 Posts

Posted - 21 May 2002 :  02:39:16  Show Profile  Visit Etymon's Homepage

This is from the FrontPage help files:


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"Enable or disable Active Server Pages (.asp)"

You can enable or disable the use of Active Server Pages (files with the .asp extension) in a web.

On the Tools menu, click Page Options, click the Compatibility tab, and then select or clear the Active Server Pages check box.

Notes:

If you target your web for compatibility with Apache server in the Servers box, Active Server Pages are disabled by default. If you override the default and enable Active Server Pages, your pages might not be displayed properly, or they might contain errors.
If your web already uses a database and you disable Active Server Pages, the Results and Column Value commands (Insert menu, Database submenu) will be unavailable.



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"Open or edit an Active Server Page (.asp)"

When you open an Active Server Page (.asp file) in Page view, you can view it on the Normal tab, and edit it by using either the Normal tab or the HTML tab.

Notes:

If an Active Server Page opens on the HTML tab, Microsoft FrontPage has detected errors or structural problems with the page, such as multiple body tags or missing end tags. FrontPage opens the page on the HTML tab to prevent any unwanted changes to the original .asp.
Active Server Pages may not preview properly on the Preview tab. To see the page as it will be appear to a site visitor browsing to your site, click Preview in Browser on the File menu.




If your website is primarily an HTML web page site, and you want to include your forum in your web, then the following tutorial I wrote might be of interest to you:

http://www.rjsonline.net/~cricket/help/disabling_frontpage_from_editing.htm


Cheers,

Etymon

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