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nomad_2k
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 16 March 2002 : 10:05:06
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Is there? Where can I download it from?
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 March 2002 : 10:10:55
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This will be a feature of the upcoming release of 3.4
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nomad_2k
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 March 2002 : 12:19:08
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I saw that, but I want to avoid the upgrade to 3.4 if I can, because I have modified a lot of my forum to integrate it into my web site and I don't realy want to have to do it again just to get dynamic sigs. (I've already got most of the new features from 3.4 from mods and my own additions).
So is their a dynamic sig mod?
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BikerBob
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20595 Posts |
Posted - 17 March 2002 : 06:04:01
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I saw that, but I want to avoid the upgrade to 3.4 if I can, because I have modified a lot of my forum to integrate it into my web site and I don't realy want to have to do it again just to get dynamic sigs. (I've already got most of the new features from 3.4 from mods and my own additions).
So is their a dynamic sig mod?
There will be many other benefits of upgrading to 3.4, noteably the increased security.
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 17 March 2002 : 08:14:12
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Still I suspect you might find people a little slow to upgrade to 3.4
I suspect I might not even upgrade at all myself. I'm getting near the point of no return on 3.3 now as far as % of original code left vs my own Mod and changes.
I can also see that the fact that 3.4 is being converted to Response.Write making it just that little bit harder for people to apply their Mod changes back to 3.4, Not a single existing mod will now probably be compatible becuase the instructions and line numbers will just be way off.
Adding to that the lack of pure HTML in the code making it harder to isolate HTML code from ASP/VBScript (no color coding of tags being available within most editors) and add to that the potential fact that the pure Response code will be slower. Right now I'm getting 1.6M hits per month so 'speed' is starting to mean a little more to me.
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nomad_2k
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 March 2002 : 10:17:32
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There will be many other benefits of upgrading to 3.4, noteably the increased security.
I already use md5 to encrypt the passwords in the db and cookies.
But I might as well upgrade now, Access screwed my database up and I forgot to back it up.
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nomad_2k
Junior Member
United Kingdom
173 Posts |
Posted - 17 March 2002 : 10:24:10
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add to that the potential fact that the pure Response code will be slower. Right now I'm getting 1.6M hits per month so 'speed' is starting to mean a little more to me.
Using response.write is a lot quicker than
<p><%=Blah%> blah blah <%=blah%> blah blah</p>
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 17 March 2002 : 18:20:22
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Using response.write is a lot quicker than
<p><%=Blah%> blah blah <%=blah%> blah blah</p>
If only it were that straight forward. There has been quite a few places now that have run various tests on the speed differences between context switching and HTML and the results have all been pretty similar. Context switching under W2K and the latest IIS are actually somewhere in the range of 30% faster than using pure response.write codes
Heres just one of the many articles now floating around on the subject
http://www.webreview.com/2001/09_14/developers/index02.shtml
The summary of their findings are as follows, the last two paragraphs say it all really.
" .....As you can see from the results of my crude benchmark tests, how efficiently an ASP page performs is directly related to the methods used to generate that page. Deciding between these methods is often dependant on your development environment.
If you are still using Windows NT, your choice is not an easy one. Think hard about what you are doing and what you are trying to accomplish before writing your code. It's best to try to curtail the amount of context switching and use plenty of static HTML. If you must nest a large amount of ASP within every line of HTML, use some well thought out string concatenation in conjuction with Response.Write to get the best performance.
If you've made the move to Windows 2000 (and if you haven't, I encourage you to do so) your choice is pretty simple. Start with lots of static HTML, insert as much ASP as you need, and call it a day. You'll see the best performance from your page, and it will be simple to code.
Finally, there's also one more benefit of using static HTML in your ASP pages that I have failed to mention so far, yet could be the most important benefit to your workgroup: Maintainability. It's much easier to edit properly outlined static HTML than it is to peck through ASP that generates HTML. Using static HTML whenever possible will save you crucial time when maintaining your code; and if your graphics and layout staff must work with your code as well, they will be much happier! ...."
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dayve
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BikerBob
Junior Member
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Posted - 18 March 2002 : 10:34:46
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LOL, now I find a link to this. I just implemented this at my site 3 weeks ago by myself.. oh well, I am glad I did, it is definately a worth-while edit to the forum.
should have asked 
If I get time I will upload the mods I have that are not at Nathan's site.
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