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tteal
Junior Member
USA
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 Posted - 13 August 2001 : 00:13:26
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I will be working on updating http://www.tealnet.com site to fully integrate users and correlate applications together.
I've written an application that will handle groups and allow admins of those groups to assign privaledges to certain other applications or not based on their membership.
My plan is to fully integrate everything together (i.e. forum, classifieds, profiles, and a whole lot of other things).
If anyone would like to work with me on this project, I will offer you a free website hosting until my company does not exist any longer for FREE! I know it's alot of work, however, I think you'll be pleased with my service and the servers that I'm about to put online.
If you want to help me, just reply here or email me: webmaster@tealnet.com
Cheers,
Tim
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work mule
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 13 August 2001 : 00:57:51
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Wow. Sounds very cool. Both the project and the offer! 
I would love to help, but I think that there are people here that either have already delved into groups or being more familiar with the Snitz membership system would be further ahead in this.
So out of curiousity, you said you already wrote an application for handling groups, what do you need done now? Integration of your application into forums, classifieds, etc.? Is this something that you see more of a custom thing for your site or something that can be integrated back into Snitz if the development team approves of it?
If it's the latter (integration into Snitz) then after reading this post about Usergroups, it would seem Dave Maxwell is your number one guy! According to his post at the Usergroup topic, he said he'd do it after Internationalization and CSS. Well bozden has a good handle on Internationalization and I did a mod for CSS, so now Dave should be able to direct his efforts to Usergroups. 
Still it's a very tempting offer... 
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tteal
Junior Member
USA
438 Posts |
Posted - 13 August 2001 : 01:34:26
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work mule,
Thanks for answering. To go further into depth, here's the scoop. The custom security application that I've written is proprietary and I've spent countless hours on it and I do mean countless perfecting it.
Secondly, I don't want folks to think that all I need is "ASP Guru's" cause that's not the case at all. I need Graphics experts also. What I'm trying to do is make my site stand out so much that people have no choice but to visit it. The portal would work for that site, however, I want my security application integrated to turn on/off features easily by group admins.
Here is a basic layout.
Admin ----> Group Admin ------> Group ------> Users/Applications
Another words the admin can say what permissions/rights/applications that the group admins can give users permissions to and so forth.
To go further in depth about the design, I need something that can be easily manipulated via a database, sorta of a template if you will. The users will feel like they are at their site and they will only have to login one time and it will remember them, how many classifieds they have, and so forth. This is easily done through database/cookies/sessions, etc.
hopefully I've explained myself a little more.
Cheers,
Tim
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Spoon
Average Member
Ireland
507 Posts |
Posted - 13 August 2001 : 16:38:08
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Id like to give a hand, i dont need the hosting though. Let me know if you still need help. Im pretty good with graphics and im good at ASP. Not an "ASP GURU" though ;)
Later,
Regards - Spoon
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asp_storm
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 13 August 2001 : 17:09:47
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sure, i could do some graphics and would like the hosting
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Morpheus73
Average Member
Denmark
597 Posts |
Posted - 13 August 2001 : 17:56:47
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Hmmm....here I am again - going on about the usergroups ;)
well ... the baseline in both the usergroup discussions and the project I suspect you are working on is that the later versions of snitz and all the great mods needs a whole new membership-system.
The thing Iīve been working on is a system based on snitz, that will integrate the funtions of Tschiveīs portal MOD, the upcoming intranet mod, several website-templates based on the displaycontentmod and finally FingerTips ( www.loudasp.com ) + the future usergroup system.
the system will consist of a main portal with different sections + the ability for users to create their own site either by uploading their own html stuff or by choosing one of the templates i created from the above.
However, I would like the login for the mainportal to be the same as the visitors logins to the different userīs sites - so one big memberdb containing all the users from the toplevelsite + the users/vivistors from all the sublevelsites. - needed for this is the usergroups mod.
Is this the kind of thing you want to accomplish also? - then I suggest we get a hold on Tschive, give him the space + the MS SQL database needed + the cool asp guys + everybody who wants to chip in from ideas to hardcoded elements. but important is it to have many long discussions over the theme here first.
A project of these dimensions is huge - BUT IT CAN BE DONE BSED ON EXISTING SCRIPTS AND MODS! - It would be a great alternative for:
people offering hosting services (like you tim)
people offering webdesign (like www.typo3.com )
people offering free websites/communities for visistors (like MSN ;) )
people wanting to run multiple sites from one server but doesnīt want to spend hours everyday on managing users and content
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Kal Corp
Average Member
USA
878 Posts |
Posted - 13 August 2001 : 18:14:53
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Dont forget about NT mode 
I'll try to help out or test this for you
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GauravBhabu
Advanced Member
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Posted - 13 August 2001 : 18:24:58
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I will work with you all on this project.
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tteal
Junior Member
USA
438 Posts |
Posted - 13 August 2001 : 20:33:32
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Morpheus,
Actually I've already written the security stuff (i.e. groups, users, applications) in which will be easy to manage and will be via include file to control who has access or not, etc.
I'll let everyone know when I'm ready to start.. trying to come up with an attack plan now. Thanks for all the replies!!!!!
Cheers,
Tim
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Morpheus73
Average Member
Denmark
597 Posts |
Posted - 14 August 2001 : 02:32:59
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Sounds great, Tim.
Regarding the membershipsystem, I have another idea, not directly linked with this topic, but should be included if a whole new membershipsystem is to be written: 3rd security option:MSN EXPLORER/PASSPORT/HOTMAIL based login.
With more and more users signing up for hotmail accounts, the integration of MSN EXPLORER, WINDOWS XP, micsoftīs PassPort, the upcoming .NET standard, we should be able to include this 3rd security option.
We have the basic code in the MSN Messenger MOD developed by Richard Kinser. The included MC.VBS file checks if people are signed in or not. - if we somehow could read the visitors emailadress, username and maybe even password from this and these informations could then be stored in the DB as emailaddress/username and password, well then all visitors signed into his passport/hotmail/explorer would be logged in and automatically erected as a member. This way all visitorīs could use the systemīs features without having to login and admin would collect a lot of users and users emailadresses and so forth. the option could be included to delete members who havenīt been active for xx months.
You say your code is "proprietary" ... my english is a little rusty ... does this mean that an release of the code isnīt intended? - if so, I consider this silly for several reasons; of course all the ideological principles of snitz, but also for pure technical reasons: The future implementations of MODS and future core versions of snitz. I say: letīs do this the open source way, Iīm sure most snitzers will choose your hosting services anyways because of your direct connection with the team, your reasonable prices and the fact that you will be the most experienced host working with snitz that is available. Remember it is the content, the usability and affordability that drives your business/website/portal rather than monopolīs on technical implementations - users/competitors always find a way around the technical stuff
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work mule
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 14 August 2001 : 08:40:36
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Is this the kind of thing you want to accomplish also? - then I suggest we get a hold on Tschive, give him the space + the MS SQL database needed + the cool asp guys + everybody who wants to chip in from ideas to hardcoded elements.
The time issue concerns me. I can't commit to a very large project. However, if the space was to get donated to Tschive, I'll try to help where/when I can.
As far as the proprietary stuff. I don't think there's any problem with that. There's lots of additional code that's been written out there and hasn't been released. Something that no one here knows, besides Tim, is how the custom security application works. Being a "custom" written application, it sometimes means that it's been built specifically for a project or specific operating environment. Which means it's exactly to the specs that Tim needed, but may not be compatible for the rest of us.
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Morpheus73
Average Member
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Posted - 14 August 2001 : 10:53:46
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As far as the proprietary stuff. I don't think there's any problem with that. There's lots of additional code that's been written out there and hasn't been released. Something that no one here knows, besides Tim, is how the custom security application works. Being a "custom" written application, it sometimes means that it's been built specifically for a project or specific operating environment. Which means it's exactly to the specs that Tim needed, but may not be compatible for the rest of us.
Sure, but if this is a private project, I think that it would be a waste of all the good snitzers to focus on this project instead of developing a new general membershipsystem for snitz. - Fine for the person who getīs the free hosting, but the rest of the community wonīt benefit from this. tHEN iīd rather see you, work mule, spoon and Kal putting your excellent skills in the development of the original Snitz system and thereby help out the thousand of enthusiasts, that has made this the no.1 ASP opensource project of all times.
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tteal
Junior Member
USA
438 Posts |
Posted - 14 August 2001 : 21:03:56
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Being a "custom" written application, it sometimes means that it's been built specifically for a project or specific operating environment. Which means it's exactly to the specs that Tim needed, but may not be compatible for the rest of us.
Yeppers, this has nothing to do with Snitz except making the membership somehow hook together and I think I have a fix/solution for it. I mean proprietary because it was written exclusively for my solution and will not work for anyone else unless I modified it. Sorry.....
Cheers,
Tim
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