Internet Explorer 7 Final is now available

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RichardKinser
Internet Explorer 7 Final is now available
18 October 2006, 19:43


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/default.mspx<

 

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Davio
18 October 2006, 20:09


Thanks Richard. Will check it out.<
AnonJr
18 October 2006, 20:34


Shouldn't "Darth Vader's March" be playing? {kidding}<
dayve
18 October 2006, 20:57


I've really been enjoying the ride so far so will definitely jump on installing the final version immediately.<
Davio
18 October 2006, 21:11


I have been using the Fox for so long, using this I feel handicapped. lol

Not having all my buttons on the top left is gonna take some getting used to.
I disabled the anti-phishing site feature since it seems it wants to annoy me more than be helpful. After it scans that forum.snitz.com is not phishy, is there any need to rescan every single page on forum.snitz.com? Ah well. I don't visit phishy sites. bigsmile
I'll keep exploring with it.<
Soar
18 October 2006, 22:55


How is performance? I've been using the version that is in Windows Vista, and find that while it generally loads static pages more quickly then IE 6, it seems to have trouble with dynamic pages - or at least some of them. This may be related to the added security that comes with IE 7 on Vista, so I am curious as to the experience under Windows XP (the latest beta or the final release). Thanks.<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 02:48


I have also been using it on Vista and can't say I have noticed it being slow at all, are you sure it's not your settings rather than IE7<
wii
19 October 2006, 02:53


I installed IE 7 Final, so far only few problems with some sites, the main problem is that all text is blurry, have you noticed that ?<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 03:06


nope not at all, check whether you have cleartype on or off in the options, or maybe you need new glasses wii smile<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 03:09


its in Tools|Internet options, on the advanced tab under the multimedia section smile<
wii
19 October 2006, 03:15


LOL, I have Cleartype enabled - still blurry, my co-worker beside me has the same problem.<
wii
19 October 2006, 03:23


Found the solution !
I unchecked the Clear Type - and now it clear !!!
Is that weird, or what ?<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 03:29


yes very, cleartype should make it better, what sort of monitor do you have ? <
wii
19 October 2006, 03:38


I have a Dell 1905FP - excellent monitor by the way.<
Shaggy
19 October 2006, 03:51


Awesomeness; proper PNG handling at last bigsmile Just need to figure out how to upgrade from IE6 while keeping a copy of it for testing sites.
<edit>Wait, no need; I can just run IE6 on our server through Remote Desktop smile</edit>

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ruirib
19 October 2006, 04:16


wii,

You should be able to customize the ClearType settings, so that it improves the way stuff is displayed in your monitor. Here is the page that can help you adjust the ClearType settings: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/Step1.aspx<
wii
19 October 2006, 04:29


Still the same, I went through the page you suggested, and selected the clearest type for my screen, but no matter what, the text looks best and clear with Clear Type off in IE 7.
Oh well, as long as it works.<
ruirib
19 October 2006, 04:34


Weird, it's the first time I've seen that...<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 04:52


yep same here, clear type has always looked better on the machines I have tried it on<
wii
19 October 2006, 05:46


In any case, I like IE 7 very much - cool with the tab windows and it seems to load websites faster than before. Some of the CSS sites I´ve created needs some adjustments, but that´s minor.<
SiSL
19 October 2006, 06:01


It's performance way much increased even more than RC1, loved it.
Hence still using Maxthon over IE7 engine bigsmile<
Davio
19 October 2006, 11:40


Yup. Turned ClearType off. Made the text look all fuzzy for me. Like I was using a flat screen monitor. Also using a Dell <some type> monitor. smile<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 11:45


Originally posted by Shaggy
<edit>Wait, no need; I can just run IE6 on our server through Remote Desktop smile</edit>

Yep, that's what I have to do to smile<
Shaggy
19 October 2006, 11:59


Great minds ... wink
Apart from all the fixes for diplaying pages properly, I don't know if I'm liking the programme itself so far; maybe it's just going to take me a while to get used to the new interface but the menu bar not being at the top of the window is always going to be weird.
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HuwR
19 October 2006, 12:15


you can turn it on you know smile I have my menu bar at the top as normal, look under View|Toolbars<
Shaggy
19 October 2006, 12:41


Hmm ... All I see under the View > Toolbars are the options for toggling each toolbar and for locking the toolbars.
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MarkJH
19 October 2006, 12:50


I don't think you can have the menu bar above the address bar, Shaggy. If that's what you mean.
Give it a while. I've been using it since beta 2 and I could never go back to IE6.<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 12:54


see what you mean MarkJH, no you can't move the address bar, had just got used to it being up there smile<
dayve
19 October 2006, 13:13


If I had to complain about one thing with IE7 it would be that you can not move certain portions of the toolbar. Other than that, I think it is quite possibly the best release Microsoft IE has ever had.<
Davio
19 October 2006, 14:04


Originally posted by dayve
If I had to complain about one thing with IE7 it would be that you can not move certain portions of the toolbar.
I agree. My complaint as well.
I won't even mention to you guys the exploits that have been found already. sad These hackers will do anything to humiliate MS. smile<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 14:07


Originally posted by dayve
If I had to complain about one thing with IE7 it would be that you can not move certain portions of the toolbar. Other than that, I think it is quite possibly the best release Microsoft IE has ever had.
which parts ? the only thing you can't move is the addressbar<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 14:09


Originally posted by Davio I won't even mention to you guys the exploits that have been found already. sad
I think you probably should<
AnonJr
19 October 2006, 15:40


Originally posted by Davio
I won't even mention to you guys the exploits that have been found already. sad

Would you be referring to this?<
RichardKinser
19 October 2006, 16:04


Originally posted by Davio
I won't even mention to you guys the exploits that have been found already. sad

Would you be referring to this?
The only ones I know of is that one and this one (which is technically an Outlook Express bug): http://bink.nu/Article8571.bink<
dayve
19 October 2006, 16:29


Originally posted by dayve
If I had to complain about one thing with IE7 it would be that you can not move certain portions of the toolbar. Other than that, I think it is quite possibly the best release Microsoft IE has ever had.
which parts ? the only thing you can't move is the addressbar
I don't particularly like where the Home button is. I know that is an issue related back to not being able to modify the location of the address bar, but I find it mildly annoying. Irregardless of that little quirk that I have with it, as a whole it is a great product.<
Davio
19 October 2006, 16:49


Originally posted by AnonJr

Would you be referring to this?
Yeah. It's low on the totem pole though, so I didn't post it as nothing to much to worry about. But just realized it was reported in April already. So I guess Microsoft know's about it.<
AnonJr
19 October 2006, 17:35


I'm going to install it on my laptop tonight. I'm surprised there is no way to run IE6 and IE7 simultaneously for testing. Correct me if I'm wrong - on that and this - but wasn't that always an option in the past?<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 17:37


Originally posted by AnonJr
I'm going to install it on my laptop tonight. I'm surprised there is no way to run IE6 and IE7 simultaneously for testing. Correct me if I'm wrong - on that and this - but wasn't that always an option in the past?
not as far as I know, each browser version has replaced the last one.<
dayve
19 October 2006, 18:22


Came across this neat little trick awhile ago during the BETA phase which put together the final pieces of how to run multiple IE versions on one machine - I'd forgotten about the .local trick which is available in XP.
1) Download IE7 public beta and unpack the installer. Should work with Final Version as well 2) Rename or delete the shlwapi.dll file in the directory you unpacked the beta to. 3) Create an empty file iexplore.exe.local in the directory you unpacked the beta to. 4) Run IExplore.exe

Tada bigsmile
The hows and whys of why this works are explained in great detail here for anyone who's interested in the workings of Windows - http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/multiIE.html - otherwise, that's all you need to do to get it up and running. Works right back to IE4 apparently.
I take no responsibility with this hack messing up your machine!<
AnonJr
19 October 2006, 18:36


Originally posted by dayve
I take no responsibility with this hack messing up your machine!
Well now that takes all the fun out of it. clown
Thanks for the tip. I'll have to try it on the same PC I still haven't gotten around to re-formatting.<
HuwR
19 October 2006, 19:25


might have to try that too
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AnonJr
19 October 2006, 21:18


Well, I've just installed IE7 on my laptop (not as a standalone... going to do that on a computer I didn't just finish getting set up). So far I like it. (at leas all my sites don't look any worse in it)

I also have a small qualm with not being able to move the address bar - I've always loved it just above the canvas. At least with FF, darn near everything can be moved to just about anywhere you wanted to move it. There's something the folks at MS should steal. smile
I'll probably drop Maxthon now, since the main reason I was using it was for tabbed IE browsing. ('course, now there's also the IETab plugin for FF too) Now I wish my computer at work was running XP so I could install it there...<
AnonJr
19 October 2006, 21:37


I guess I should also add that since I installed IE7, the colors on the .png desktop wallpaper I use are off...<
StephenD
19 October 2006, 21:58


AnonJr, let me know how it compares to Maxthon please - resource usage etc..<
Soar
19 October 2006, 22:44


Originally posted by HuwR
I have also been using it on Vista and can't say I have noticed it being slow at all, are you sure it's not your settings rather than IE7
That could be it - I've run it "out of the box" with no changes. Also, it's running on a test machine that is slightly underpowered. Thanks, HuwR - I'm wanting to upgrade for the increased security and better CSS support, and that helps to convince me.<
Shaggy
20 October 2006, 03:55


Ah, no; just installed it on my main machine - it doesn't let WindowBlinds skin it sad
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HuwR
20 October 2006, 04:35


that's odd, windowBlinds skins it on my brothers PC<
Shaggy
20 October 2006, 04:46


It skins the window but it doesn't change the icons as it did with IE6.
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HuwR
20 October 2006, 05:15


right, not sure about that will check with my bro, tried windowBlinds on my machine but had to take it off, was playing havoc with visual studio and my machine just kept crashing every couple of hours<
AnonJr
20 October 2006, 05:49


Originally posted by StephenD
AnonJr, let me know how it compares to Maxthon please - resource usage etc..

I'm the wrong person to ask about resource usage... tongue
When building a site, I've got a DVD going on on monitor, IE, FF, and Opera on another, and Dreamweaver and PowerDeskPro on the main monitor... and no real problems with resources (just the electric bill).
Doing just some regular browsing on my laptop, it didn't seem any faster or slower than Maxthon. Having said that, its eliminated the very reason I was using Maxthon in the first place - tabbed browsing with IE. There are one or two rarely used Maxthon plugins that I may miss at one point in time or another - like the FlashSave - but I'm sure I can find a replacement sooner or later. wink
My only beefs with IE7 have been mentioned above - can't move the address bar, and since I've installed it .png desktop wallpapers don't look right even though they show up fine opened in IE7.<
SiSL
21 October 2006, 12:05


On memory hogging IE7 > Maxthon, however for some weird reason Maxthon could not resolve, Maxthon reaches to 40-50% CPU usage with IE7 installed. (Like when opening simple pages as Google :P)

Currently IE7 is my default browser, definitely improved a lot

And you can also use this if your favorite websites still not arranged for IE7.<
dayve
21 October 2006, 13:48


I just remembered the 2nd mildly annoying feature in IE7. When I view an XML file it parses it into a friendly view state instead of showing all of the individual nodes. I've looked for a way to view the raw XML data but can't seem to find a way to do it unless I save it and then view it with something else.<
HuwR
21 October 2006, 14:58


not sure what you mean, I can view xml files fine, no need to save them and re-open them at all, have you just tried expanding the nodes ?<
HuwR
21 October 2006, 14:59


oh, and you could just do a view source as well<
dayve
22 October 2006, 00:26


Originally posted by HuwR
not sure what you mean, I can view xml files fine, no need to save them and re-open them at all, have you just tried expanding the nodes ?
my XML files do not show as raw XML files in IE7. here is a screenshot to elaborate a bit more:


I know I can view source, but I was hoping there was a setting that just showed the XML without any type of stylesheet applied for appearance.<
HuwR
22 October 2006, 04:36


that is an RSS feed not a raw xml file, it is being viewed by the rss reader in IE7<
RichardKinser
22 October 2006, 05:22


you can turn off the feed reading view:

Tools -> Internet Options -> Content -> Feeds Settings

uncheck "Turn on feed reading view" in the Advanced section<
dayve
22 October 2006, 11:43


Originally posted by RichardKinser
you can turn off the feed reading view:

Tools -> Internet Options -> Content -> Feeds Settings

uncheck "Turn on feed reading view" in the Advanced section
Thank you.<
HuwR
24 October 2006, 21:08


for those of you who would prefer the address bar to be underneath the menu here is a registry tweak that should move it.
Open regedit and set the following
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser]
"ITBar7Position"=dword:00000001

to undo the change

"ITBar7Position"=dword:00000000
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Shaggy
25 October 2006, 04:07


Thanks, Huw bigsmile
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HuwR
25 October 2006, 04:18


I didn't try it myself, so if anyone does and it works could they post to confirm.<
Shaggy
25 October 2006, 04:28


Just trying it now and I don't have an ITBar7Position item in my registry.
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Davio
25 October 2006, 04:58


Me niether. Only ITBar7Layout.<
RichardKinser
25 October 2006, 05:07


You have to add it, it won't already be there. On mine the sub-key "WebBrowser" wasn't even there, I had to add it.<
RichardKinser
25 October 2006, 05:08


Originally posted by HuwR
I didn't try it myself, so if anyone does and it works could they post to confirm.
Yes, it works, unless you have the sidebar open (and pinned) (Favorites, History), then it goes back below the address bar.<
AnonJr
25 October 2006, 08:07


Cool.

Anybody have an idea why my .png desktop was messed up? I haven't found anything on Google just yet...<
Shaggy
25 October 2006, 08:17


Messed up how? Got a screenshot? And the original 'til we see what it should look like.
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AnonJr
26 October 2006, 15:57


Lemme get my laptop going since that is the computer with IE7 installed.
in the mean time, this is the actual file in question.
Ok, and here is what it looks like on my IE7 Laptop.<
HuwR
26 October 2006, 17:17


odd, works ok as my desktop wallpaper, check that the colour depth on your laptop hasn't been reset to 256 colours or something daft like that<
AnonJr
27 October 2006, 11:59


Nope. It's still at 32Bit. sad<
MarkJH
27 October 2006, 13:07


Presumably, it works if you convert it to another file format?<
AnonJr
27 October 2006, 14:19


I'm sure it would. I just found it odd that IE7 boasts better .png support, and now that I put it on my laptop .png wallpapers don't display correctly.
I know Huwr said he didn't have the same problem, has anybody else run into this?<
C2K
07 December 2006, 07:34


One of the main issues I have found with IE7 is the ability to upload files. I run a site with a file exchange and when users attempt to upload a file with IE7 the browser tends to just sit there and do nothing (http://www.coasters2k.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=99). Of course, using Fox is no problem at all, so I am thinking that perhaps this has something to do with some settings in IE? Can anyone think of why the upload would just stall out? I have modified everything I could think of in the settings and still the problem exists, thoughts? Thanks for the input in advance folks.
As info, we are using Snitz 3.4.06, but I am almost certain that is not a factor here -- it really does seem like an IE issue.<
HuwR
07 December 2006, 08:20


I use IE7 all the time and have absolutely no trouble uploading files. what code are you using to do the uploads, since Snitz does not have any upload facility so you must be using a mod or a thirdparty component<
C2K
07 December 2006, 09:05


I was thinking it could be the mod we are using as well. We actually got that mod from another locale -- but thanks for bringing that point up - I had completely overlooked that issue. It is odd that Mozilla would have no issues ... but then again, IE is IE. Let me see where that came from (that is the the one thing I am unsure of since someone else wrote that portion) and see if a modification to the code there is in order to accept IE files. Thanks man. <
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